DOS Ain't Done Til Lotus Won't Run? (2005) • Hacker News Board

Re: DOS Ain't Done Til Lotus Won't Run? (2005)

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Post by anonbanker » Sun, Oct 25, 2015, 8:05 PM UTC

eropple wrote: post #78

anonbanker wrote: post #77

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you, sir, are excellent at using propaganda to discount people's claims. when malice is assumed, you discount it with "mustachio twirling" strawmen. Now, instead of talking about the parent's point of direct anticompetitive behavior, we're somehow discussing "whispers of monopolies" that somehow put the burden of proof back on the grandparent, even though anyone older than 24 knows why microsoft is still not to be tr…

Propaganda? You're confusing a love for the English language and a little command of rhetoric with something vastly different, chief. Hell, I don't even use Windows as a primary platform; I'm typing this from a Mac while I'm (quite literally) waiting to meet a guy to sell my Surface Pro 3 that I never use. I'm just not impressed by rules-for-thee-but-not-for-me silliness and knee-jerk, irrational fear. I don't trust…

I think you and I have a vastly different definition of propaganda. I considered your post to be information or ideas methodically spread to promote or injure a cause, movement, nation, etc. In this case, the cause and movement would be "microsoft is still evil, do not forget." do you disagree that your post fits the definition under these constraints?

Re: DOS Ain't Done Til Lotus Won't Run? (2005)

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Post by dang » Mon, Oct 26, 2015, 12:12 AM UTC

anonbanker wrote: post #80

dang wrote: post #79

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Personal attacks, which this crosses the line into, are not allowed on HN.

This might be an Appeal to Dehumanization (I just created a new fallacy), but I consider about 75% of the people on HN to be legitimate people. the remaining reek of sockpuppetry. I felt the grandparent was a sockpuppet, and am treating the account as a dataset for future encounters. I should be more mindful of the fact that there's (potentially) a human being behind the account I'm treating like an astroturfer. I ca…

If you want to name a new fallacy, name the bias where people are more likely to think someone is astroturfing or a shill when they disagree with them. That's a common one, and it's definitely against the rules on HN to go there without evidence. An opposing opinion is not evidence.

https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&prefix=true&page=0&dateR...

Re: DOS Ain't Done Til Lotus Won't Run? (2005)

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Post by anonbanker » Mon, Oct 26, 2015, 4:22 AM UTC

dang wrote: post #82

anonbanker wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This might be an Appeal to Dehumanization (I just created a new fallacy), but I consider about 75% of the people on HN to be legitimate people. the remaining reek of sockpuppetry. I felt the grandparent was a sockpuppet, and am treating the account as a dataset for future encounters. I should be more mindful of the fact that there's (potentially) a human being behind the account I'm treating like an astroturfer. I ca…

If you want to name a new fallacy, name the bias where people are more likely to think someone is astroturfing or a shill when they disagree with them. That's a common one, and it's definitely against the rules on HN to go there without evidence. An opposing opinion is not evidence. https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&prefix=true&page=0&dateR...

one would assume the Hasty Generalization[1] fallacy would suffice.

When, do you think, does a rhetorical device fall into the realm of propagandizing?

1. http://www.logicalfallacies.info/presumption/hasty-generalis...

Re: DOS Ain't Done Til Lotus Won't Run? (2005)

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Post by WorldWideWayne » Mon, Oct 26, 2015, 4:17 PM UTC

dang wrote: post #76

WorldWideWayne wrote: post #71

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Drop what? Relevant facts and observations? You can just fuck right off with your weasely bullshit reasons and appeals to maturity. And if you actually didn't give a shit, you wouldn't have replied but here I think now we see the real you getting upset that someone called you out on your bullshit reasons for posting this.

We've banned this account for repeatedly breaking the HN guidelines.

Which account? mindcrime and WorldWideWayne both seem to be alive at this time. Oh maybe you just meant banned from submitting stories. That makes sense. Thanks!

Re: DOS Ain't Done Til Lotus Won't Run? (2005)

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Post by dang » Tue, Oct 27, 2015, 11:19 PM UTC

WorldWideWayne wrote: post #84

dang wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We've banned this account for repeatedly breaking the HN guidelines.

Which account? mindcrime and WorldWideWayne both seem to be alive at this time. Oh maybe you just meant banned from submitting stories. That makes sense. Thanks!

(Didn't see this earlier.) No, I'm sorry to say that what I meant is that we banned your account because https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10439668 was completely unacceptable, you've done this before, and you've ignored our requests to stop.

If you want us to unban your account, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com. We're happy to unban people if (but only if) they give us reason to believe they'll follow the rules in the future.