Study says standardized testing is overwhelming nation’s public schools
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Study says standardized testing is overwhelming nation’s public schools
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#2That was the point of the of no child left behind. If a select few aren't getting rich off of a public service then it must be broken and privatized.
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#3The rich send their kids to private schools.
Therefore, this problem does not apply to the rich.
Therefore, this problem will not be solved.
Re: Study says standardized testing is overwhelming nation’s public schools
#4The rich send their kids to private schools. Therefore, this problem does not apply to the rich. Therefore, this problem will not be solved.
This made me pause and think for a moment. What do rich kid schools do? I have no idea. I went to a dumb kid rural high school. But for some reason through the endless education discussion I've never heard brought up what rich kid schools do differently. Even if the answer is "but we can't do that because we're poor".
Man. Now you've got me all curious...
Re: Study says standardized testing is overwhelming nation’s public schools
#5The rich send their kids to private schools. Therefore, this problem does not apply to the rich. Therefore, this problem will not be solved.
This made me pause and think for a moment. What do rich kid schools do? I have no idea. I went to a dumb kid rural high school. But for some reason through the endless education discussion I've never heard brought up what rich kid schools do differently. Even if the answer is "but we can't do that because we're poor". Man. Now you've got me all curious...
One thing "rich kid schools" do is filter out many students who are difficult to teach. Teaching and running a school is a lot easier if your goal does not involve teaching everyone who walks through your doors.
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#6They should take a hint from engineering: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nondestructive_testing
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#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
This made me pause and think for a moment. What do rich kid schools do? I have no idea. I went to a dumb kid rural high school. But for some reason through the endless education discussion I've never heard brought up what rich kid schools do differently. Even if the answer is "but we can't do that because we're poor". Man. Now you've got me all curious...
One thing "rich kid schools" do is filter out many students who are difficult to teach. Teaching and running a school is a lot easier if your goal does not involve teaching everyone who walks through your doors.
This is by far the biggest difference between the two.
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#8No shit. Public school is all about teaching to the tests. There's no time to actually learn anything useful, because everything is focused on bringing up the state test scores, which influence funding. Not only are you spending all this time teaching what is going to be on the standardized test, and how to structure essays and do your work according to what the test graders expect, but there's the two weeks taken out of instructional time just to take the damned tests.
So you see everything that doesn't support that goal get stripped back. Home economics? Shop? History? Real literature? Gym? Programming/technology/spelling/philosophy? Nope, we're going to spend 80% of your time honing your five-paragraph essay skills and pushing everybody kicking and screaming through pre-calc.
Re: Study says standardized testing is overwhelming nation’s public schools
#9The rich send their kids to private schools. Therefore, this problem does not apply to the rich. Therefore, this problem will not be solved.
This made me pause and think for a moment. What do rich kid schools do? I have no idea. I went to a dumb kid rural high school. But for some reason through the endless education discussion I've never heard brought up what rich kid schools do differently. Even if the answer is "but we can't do that because we're poor". Man. Now you've got me all curious...
I attended a private Catholic prep school. One thing we didn't waste much time on was standardized testing. In my five years at the school, I only recall taking one standardized test, aside from the sat/ act.
Re: Study says standardized testing is overwhelming nation’s public schools
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
This made me pause and think for a moment. What do rich kid schools do? I have no idea. I went to a dumb kid rural high school. But for some reason through the endless education discussion I've never heard brought up what rich kid schools do differently. Even if the answer is "but we can't do that because we're poor". Man. Now you've got me all curious...
One thing "rich kid schools" do is filter out many students who are difficult to teach. Teaching and running a school is a lot easier if your goal does not involve teaching everyone who walks through your doors.
If that's the case, it seems like it would be a pretty easy problem to fix: allow schools to suspend/expel students who are repeatedly disruptive or violent in class. From a utilitarian perspective this would probably be a net win, in that whatever the disruptive students lost from being expelled would be more than made up for by what the students who actually wanted to learn gained from not having the disruptive students interrupting the learning process.