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Re: Show HN: Sublime Text Database Client

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Post by antaviana »

occsceo wrote: post #13
mullsork wrote: post #5

Pretty cool but that pricing... I'd be happy to shell out $9 if the trial was successful and the app felt more useful than the alternatives. But $29?

I agree. I feel its worth the $9 price point too. $29? No way. Sublime Integration isn't worth $20 when I can just alt+tab. There are a lot of free apps that provide a ton more db functionality.

Since it is convenience/time save tool, price point suitability will depend largely in your price per hour.

For example, if your price per hour is $20 and this tool saves you 1.5 hours of time in your lifetime, it would make the business case. Or, if your price per hour is $5 and it saves you 6 hours in your lifetime it also would make the business case.

However, it would be a bad investment if your price per hour is $5 and it only saves you 5 hours in your lifetime.

Re: Show HN: Sublime Text Database Client

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Post by coldtea »

luch wrote: post #15
coldtea wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We've had 3-4 months without a new dev release though, after it had picked some steam.

Well that's to be expected from a one-man company (IIRC). There used to be a time when you had yearly releases at best for commercial software (and you had to renew your license in order to get the new version). Not every company has to invest in continuous release. I'm perfectly happy to get infrequent but stable evolutions for Sublime Text. PS : However if the author could open his source code in order for me to ta…

>Well that's to be expected from a one-man company (IIRC). There used to be a time when you had yearly releases at best for commercial software.

The thing is those "dev builds" are not actual releases -- the last 10 or so of them represent at most a few dozen commits, and quite small and isolated features or fixes.

So, to put it in other words, the activity is like he has abandoned coding again the last few months (after a short stint of activity that followed a year-long halt).

Re: Show HN: Sublime Text Database Client

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Post by rlvesco7 »

Emacs provides support for all major databases. You can interactively "send" chunks of sql to the db client, get syntax highlighting, etc. However, this seems better in that it does not rely on db clients. That said, here is a cool write-up of using emacs with postgres: https://truongtx.me/2014/08/23/setup-emacs-as-an-sql-databas...

Re: Show HN: Sublime Text Database Client

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Post by mbreese »

glogla wrote: post #4
gamesbrainiac wrote: post #2

I think pgcli (for postgres) still remains a better option. It has code completion.

Pgcli is good, but there are two "modes" to use DB. One is interactive querying, which pgcli is good for. The other is developing a complex query and running it again and again, while watching the result, or maybe running multiple queries and comparing the result, etc. That is more of a task for text editor that can execute queries than a CLI query tool. Now, I don't think this is worth the 30 USD. Something like the…

> developing a complex query and running it again and again, while watching the result, or maybe running multiple queries and comparing the result

Or maybe you should just script that so that you have the entire process automated? You could even write the script in Sublime Text if that makes you feel better :)

Re: Show HN: Sublime Text Database Client

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Post by alexggordon »

mullsork wrote: post #5

Pretty cool but that pricing... I'd be happy to shell out $9 if the trial was successful and the app felt more useful than the alternatives. But $29?

To be honest the pricing was something I really struggled with. I finally ended up settling on that price as it was similar[0] to some of the other database clients on the market, and similar to the pricing of other Sublime Text plugins.

After using DB1 a fair amount I think it brings a lot of value to the daily workflow of someone that uses databases a fair amount, and uses Sublime Text. In addition to that, I have plans to support 3 or 4[1] more databases soon and add a fair amount of complicated features.

That said though, if I hear from a fair amount of people that the price point is too high then I may consider lowering it.

[0] https://eggerapps.at/postico/ [1] https://github.com/sequoiastudios/DB1/issues

Re: Show HN: Sublime Text Database Client

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Post by svaldez »

mullsork wrote: post #5

Pretty cool but that pricing... I'd be happy to shell out $9 if the trial was successful and the app felt more useful than the alternatives. But $29?

I think this do almost the same and it is free [SQLExec](http://lubriciousdevelopers.github.io/projects/sublime-sql-e...)

Re: Show HN: Sublime Text Database Client

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Post by alexggordon »

Hey everyone! I just wanted to add a little back story to DB1

I developed DB1 mostly this summer and put a lot of work into figuring how to do the various parts of it. I posted it here looking for as much feedback as I can get on the various parts of it (the cost was something I struggled a lot with). I also have a lot of features in the pipeline for DB1 that I think add a lot of additional value to the product[0].

Feel free to let me know any questions or comments you have!

[0] https://github.com/sequoiastudios/DB1/issues

Re: Show HN: Sublime Text Database Client

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Post by wbond »

occsceo wrote: post #13
mullsork wrote: post #5

Pretty cool but that pricing... I'd be happy to shell out $9 if the trial was successful and the app felt more useful than the alternatives. But $29?

I agree. I feel its worth the $9 price point too. $29? No way. Sublime Integration isn't worth $20 when I can just alt+tab. There are a lot of free apps that provide a ton more db functionality.

But if you are alt-tabbing, you no longer have the full suite of Sublime Text tools to work with. You don't have multiple cursors, and you can't use goto file, you don't get nice syntax highlighting, you can't select and execute SQL embedded in other source code files.

In the grand scheme of things, I think it all depends on how much you interact with a db. If you just run an odd command here and there, $30 may seem like a lot. If you work with databases for an hour or more a day, this could be a huge time-saver.

Re: Show HN: Sublime Text Database Client

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Post by jbrooksuk »

coldtea wrote: post #22
luch wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well that's to be expected from a one-man company (IIRC). There used to be a time when you had yearly releases at best for commercial software (and you had to renew your license in order to get the new version). Not every company has to invest in continuous release. I'm perfectly happy to get infrequent but stable evolutions for Sublime Text. PS : However if the author could open his source code in order for me to ta…

> Well that's to be expected from a one-man company (IIRC). There used to be a time when you had yearly releases at best for commercial software. The thing is those "dev builds" are not actual releases -- the last 10 or so of them represent at most a few dozen commits, and quite small and isolated features or fixes. So, to put it in other words, the activity is like he has abandoned coding again the last few months (…

> and quite small and isolated features or fixes.

This is simply not true. Jon wrote a parser for the new .sublime-syntax files, rather than using .tmTheme files.

Re: Show HN: Sublime Text Database Client

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Post by coldtea »

jbrooksuk wrote: post #29
coldtea wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Well that's to be expected from a one-man company (IIRC). There used to be a time when you had yearly releases at best for commercial software. The thing is those "dev builds" are not actual releases -- the last 10 or so of them represent at most a few dozen commits, and quite small and isolated features or fixes. So, to put it in other words, the activity is like he has abandoned coding again the last few months (…

> and quite small and isolated features or fixes. This is simply not true. Jon wrote a parser for the new .sublime-syntax files, rather than using .tmTheme files.

That was released in "Build 3084 / Release Date: 8 April 2015". I'd also count the "new regex engine" as a major feature, landing in 3085, 5 May.

Since then, for 7 builds, it has been small scale fixes and minor improvements, even them stopping altogether around July 10.

http://www.sublimetext.com/3dev

I also remember what the development pace was like for ST2 -- those builds were coming up several times a week even, so that's something to compare against.

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