Arsenal’s ‘secret’ signing: club buys £2m revolutionary data company
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Re: Arsenal’s ‘secret’ signing: club buys £2m revolutionary data company
#2Never thought I'd see an article about Arsenal here.
The "secret" purchase has been talked about for quite some time now. We'll see if it pays off. In the mean time, while we wait, Manchester United has spent a king's ransom on a teenager and so far it's looking like a great bet (yes, I know it's early still). I'm a strong believer in analytics in basketball and baseball but I wonder if in some sports, like soccer, it is harder or perhaps not possible to quantify a player's effectiveness in a scientific way. I know my skepticism sounds just like what was mentioned in the article.
Having said all of that, Arsene revolutionized scouting when he came to the PL by bringing on somewhat lesser known names from across Europe for prices that proved to be bargains. Some of those players turned into legends. Maybe with a little help he can reinvent scouting again.
Re: Arsenal’s ‘secret’ signing: club buys £2m revolutionary data company
#3Never thought I'd see an article about Arsenal here. The "secret" purchase has been talked about for quite some time now. We'll see if it pays off. In the mean time, while we wait, Manchester United has spent a king's ransom on a teenager and so far it's looking like a great bet (yes, I know it's early still). I'm a strong believer in analytics in basketball and baseball but I wonder if in some sports, like soccer, i…
Arsene revolutionised scouting by raiding bar's youth teams...
Re: Arsenal’s ‘secret’ signing: club buys £2m revolutionary data company
#4As sports are now much more data driven, is there any other analytics are doing similar? In this case of Arsenal, they purchased it for "scouting" purpose. I would also love to see if some sport clubs can leverage the data and make sport management as a predictable science.
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#5As an Arsenal fan, this somewhat surprises me considering Arsene Wenger seems to be a fairly old fashioned sort of coach these days.
It seems an eternity ago that he swept into the league with fresh new ideas. Nowadays many people (wrongly) consider him a stubborn old man who has been passed by by the modern game.
Guess he still has a few tricks left though.
Re: Arsenal’s ‘secret’ signing: club buys £2m revolutionary data company
#6As an Arsenal fan, this somewhat surprises me considering Arsene Wenger seems to be a fairly old fashioned sort of coach these days. It seems an eternity ago that he swept into the league with fresh new ideas. Nowadays many people (wrongly) consider him a stubborn old man who has been passed by by the modern game. Guess he still has a few tricks left though.
I disagree (and I am too an Arsenal fan). Wenger always brought in these new blood who are mostly below the age of 23, and I guess that's the trick he used to scout them.
I also think he is not the type of guy brag about his tricks.
But this is just for scouting. I'm yet to see someone can get all the data on each games, and help in coming up with tactics and strategy for planning the next match. Perhaps employ some ML too!
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#7Arsenal news on this page. Wow.
"StatDNA’s database is now Arsenal’s database, so if Wenger wants to sign a defender, who is, say, 6ft 4in, an excellent reader of the game and an accurate passer, one push of a button will bring up the best options in world football."
Interesting and Arsenal need a few.
Re: Arsenal’s ‘secret’ signing: club buys £2m revolutionary data company
#8As an Arsenal fan, this somewhat surprises me considering Arsene Wenger seems to be a fairly old fashioned sort of coach these days. It seems an eternity ago that he swept into the league with fresh new ideas. Nowadays many people (wrongly) consider him a stubborn old man who has been passed by by the modern game. Guess he still has a few tricks left though.
I disagree (and I am too an Arsenal fan). Wenger always brought in these new blood who are mostly below the age of 23, and I guess that's the trick he used to scout them. I also think he is not the type of guy brag about his tricks. But this is just for scouting. I'm yet to see someone can get all the data on each games, and help in coming up with tactics and strategy for planning the next match. Perhaps employ some…
What? Couching is not all scouting... no one's denying that Wenger is always on the look out for young prospects.
But Wenger is a sort of 'old fashioned' coach. He prefers focusing on how his players can do better, rather than trying to focus on the weaknesses of the opponent, which is definitely not 'modern'. This has been slowly changing the past few seasons however.
That being said, I'm definitely no #WOB just in case you think that.
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
I disagree (and I am too an Arsenal fan). Wenger always brought in these new blood who are mostly below the age of 23, and I guess that's the trick he used to scout them. I also think he is not the type of guy brag about his tricks. But this is just for scouting. I'm yet to see someone can get all the data on each games, and help in coming up with tactics and strategy for planning the next match. Perhaps employ some…
What? Couching is not all scouting... no one's denying that Wenger is always on the look out for young prospects. But Wenger is a sort of 'old fashioned' coach. He prefers focusing on how his players can do better, rather than trying to focus on the weaknesses of the opponent, which is definitely not 'modern'. This has been slowly changing the past few seasons however. That being said, I'm definitely no #WOB just in…
It's sorta weird to chat about Arsenal here...
I do agree with your above points, but he has his football (sorry American) philosophy which not most fans understand.
The past decade, he cut his spending to just build a new stadium for Arsenal, budget is tight, so what to do? Bring in the new blood, and the hard data + analytics help!
I'm hoping to see he can also bring in some data-driven approach on his on-field tactics and off-field strategy.
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#10Never thought I'd see an article about Arsenal here. The "secret" purchase has been talked about for quite some time now. We'll see if it pays off. In the mean time, while we wait, Manchester United has spent a king's ransom on a teenager and so far it's looking like a great bet (yes, I know it's early still). I'm a strong believer in analytics in basketball and baseball but I wonder if in some sports, like soccer, i…
Related question from a non-sports person, about those 'bargain' prices. How long does it take for a player to become legendary, and when does their price catch up? Is the contract a bargain because it locks-in the unknown player at a below-market price even after they become legendary? Or is it a bargain because the contract lasts a season or two and establishes the player's skill, after which they have inertia on the team and can be signed at a new market-rate contract with less bidding-wars that would be the case if they were from another team?