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YouTube Will Remove Videos of Creators Who Don’t Sign Its Red Subscription Deal

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Post by nindalf »

anvil_jones wrote: post #117
austenallred wrote: post #63

Here's a statement I got from a YouTube spokesperson: "Creators have been asking us to launch a subscription service -- so that, combined with user demand, is why we built the service and why the overwhelming majority of our partners, representing over 98% of the content watched on YouTube, have signed up. Videos of partners who don’t update their terms will be made private ​in the US at launch ​because we think It i…

Why exactly would there be less content with YouTube Red if the "partners" didn't switch over? I guess I also don't understand why the TOS of the partner program enable them to unlist the video, but not sign them up for the program.

As the top comment (and others) point out, Youtube can't show paying customers ad-filled videos, so they would have to avoid showing those videos altogether. At that point they'd be asking users to pay for a service that has fewer videos than the free tier.

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Post by lacker »

dtparr wrote: post #115
ergothus wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...and as someone that is considering paying for said ad-free option, this is the sort of thing that makes me think twice...

Out of curiosity, is there some reason a 15sec preroll on 7 shows is so off putting? Are they some of the main things you'd watch? Is it the principle of ads in an "ad free plan"?

If some videos don't go ad-free, then it just makes it really unclear what you're buying, when you are paying money to get rid of ads. It is much less confusing if paying money to get rid of ads, actually gets rid of ads.

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Post by fixermark »

forgotpwtomain wrote: post #101

Can someone tl:dr this? What happens to videos that were uploaded by old no-longer active users? Are they going to disappear as well?

I would assume that "no longer active YouTube partner" is an oxymoron.

The Hacker News summary is slightly misleading (as is the TechCrunch headline it's sourced from). YouTube will be marking private the content of YouTube partners who don't sign on to the new YouTube Red TOS. Since being a YouTube Partner is an active interaction with YouTube, I'm pretty sure the set of dead YouTube partners is a set of size 0.

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Post by itsbits »

tssva wrote: post #99
bo1024 wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

False dichotomy. Option 8: consider ways to monetize that don't involve video ads.

Like charging a monthly fee to watch videos and sharing a percentage of that fee with creators of the videos.

that means become a NetFlix

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Post by mcnamaratw »

intopieces wrote: post #92
fitshipit wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

no, it doesn't. loose isn't a verb. loosen is

loose lo͞os adjective 1. not firmly or tightly fixed in place; detached or able to be detached. "a loose tooth" synonyms: not fixed in place, not secure, unsecured, unattached; More 2. (of a garment) not fitting tightly or closely. "she slipped into a loose T-shirt and shorts" synonyms: baggy, generously cut, slack, roomy; More verb 1. set free; release. "the hounds have been loosed"

Haha, but that's just what the dictionary says.

I've decided that "to release" means "aardvark" which is a noun. So no verb "loose."

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Post by Splendor »

kllrnohj wrote: post #72
Splendor wrote: post #69

That's unfortunate because not all partners are able to agree to the new terms. Some of them have passed away. It saddens me to think that their videos will now be hidden because of a change in policy.

Either someone else now has authority over the estate such as to continue to be collecting a check from YouTube, or the channel is no longer a partner channel and just is automatically part of the new system. I don't think any channels will just go dark because the original owner passed away.

So YouTube Red is an opt-out for creators? Not an opt-in?

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Post by JohnTHaller »

ars wrote: post #12
bargl wrote: post #5

I think this is a bad decision but let's look at Googles options for showing content to users who pay for their service. Option 1: Don't show you videos from creators who don't sign it's deal. Option 2: Show you videos from creators who don't sign it's deal, but include ads. Option 3: Show you videos from creators who don't sign it's deal, but eat the loss. Option 4: Remove videos from creators who don't sign, and yo…

Yah, Google did the right thing here. You can't say "this service has no ads, then include ads", and you can't say "if you subscribe you see less videos". They really had no other good choice except force them to sign up, or loose revenue sharing status.

Well, you could say "this service has no ads" and then include ads. Hulu did. People just may not like it or respect you for it.

Hulu 'No Commercials' Plan: "A small number of shows are not included in our No Commercials plan due to streaming rights. But we’ve still made them available to you uninterrupted. They will just play with a short commercial before and after each episode. These shows are: Grey’s Anatomy, Once Upon A Time, Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Scandal, Grimm, New Girl, and How To Get Away With Murder. "

- they reserve the right to add to this list over time

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