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YouTube Will Remove Videos of Creators Who Don’t Sign Its Red Subscription Deal

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Re: YouTube Will Remove Videos of Creators Who Don’t Sign Its Red Subscription Deal

#61
I don't want to be a spelling and grammar nazi, but this mistake is being made consistently upstream so I thought I'd point it out: "Loose" is the opposite of "tight". The opposite of "win" (which I'm pretty sure is the word you meant to use) is "lose" with one "o".

Re: YouTube Will Remove Videos of Creators Who Don’t Sign Its Red Subscription Deal

#62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure the new deal affects those uploaders. The deal only affects people who are monetizing today via Ads and don't want to monetize from the Red subscription. If you are just uploading tutorials, you can just opt out of being a "YouTube Partner" altogether.

This is the part that I don't understand - because I don't know what the language like 'YouTube Partner' means... I know of a lot of YouTube creators who monetize many of their videos with ads, but when they have small 'announcement' videos, and other videos which don't really contribute to the primary drive of their channel, they don't monetize them - does this mean those 'partners' have to go all-or-nothing, and ei…

> does this mean those 'partners' have to go all-or-nothing, and either monetize all of their videos or none?

Nope. Means nothing of the sort.

Re: YouTube Will Remove Videos of Creators Who Don’t Sign Its Red Subscription Deal

#63
Here's a statement I got from a YouTube spokesperson:

"Creators have been asking us to launch a subscription service -- so that, combined with user demand, is why we built the service and why the overwhelming majority of our partners, representing over 98% of the content watched on YouTube, have signed up. Videos of partners who don’t update their terms will be made private ​in the US at launch ​because we think It isn't fair to ask a fan to pay $9.99 for a service that has less content than a free service."

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#64
Anyone know what the CPM of Youtube ads is?

I'm using an adblocker today. I'd like to support the channels I like, but probably not if the $10/month is more than 10x what they're losing from not-watching-ads today.

Ignoring, for a second, that I'm pretty sure none of my favored channels have partner status anyway.

Re: YouTube Will Remove Videos of Creators Who Don’t Sign Its Red Subscription Deal

#65
Youtube has become stupidly aggressive with its video ads in my region. To the point I actually try to avoid using it.

I will also consciously avoid all companies who think that it is acceptable to interrupt randomly people with their messages.

I am fine with overlay ads and I would have been positively influenced with the same ads in overlay form that now are forced on me as video ads.

Sorry, but this is a short term strategy.

Re: YouTube Will Remove Videos of Creators Who Don’t Sign Its Red Subscription Deal

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So let me get this straight, if I stay on the "free" youtube with my adblocker, I can continue to see all videos ad-free? Or only the non-red ones?

I am wondering about this as well. What is going to happen to my favorite small channels? There are a lot of them with very few, but dedicated fan bases. Can I still watch those with having to fork over 10$/month?

Yes, of course. It is up to the channel, not the average user, to decide whether to accept red money or not.

If that channel decides to not take the red money, then their videos will essentially be hidden - you can still find them, but you have to go directly to their page and not through search or something.

Re: YouTube Will Remove Videos of Creators Who Don’t Sign Its Red Subscription Deal

#68
Does anyone know why content creators would not sign up to get ad money from the red subscription? Even if google wasn't threatening anything by not doing it, why wouldn't you take it? Are they afraid that red subscription revenue is going to be less than typical ad revenue?

Re: YouTube Will Remove Videos of Creators Who Don’t Sign Its Red Subscription Deal

#70
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I think this is a bad decision but let's look at Googles options for showing content to users who pay for their service. Option 1: Don't show you videos from creators who don't sign it's deal. Option 2: Show you videos from creators who don't sign it's deal, but include ads. Option 3: Show you videos from creators who don't sign it's deal, but eat the loss. Option 4: Remove videos from creators who don't sign, and yo…

> What would you do?

Pay content creators who don't participate and are on monetised accounts as if the Red views had been seeing adverts, show adverts to everyone else.

I'd extract money from the red customers for the no advert feature, who would be more invested in the feature because their favourite channels would be on it. The Red customers would extract value from viewing that user's content. I'd still be getting paid for the adverts seen by everyone else. The content creator would still getting paid.

I honestly don't see any loser in that besides the content creator maybe not getting as big a cut as they would have if they chose to take the deal. If the Red deal was better than the ad-content deal then I'd be better off treating creators that way and letting them opt-out.

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