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YouTube Will Remove Videos of Creators Who Don’t Sign Its Red Subscription Deal

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Re: YouTube Will Remove Videos of Creators Who Don’t Sign Its Red Subscription Deal

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Post by gizmo686 »

FussyZeus wrote: post #16

At this point all the content on youtube is corporate sponsored or belongs to a handful of super-creators that make all the ad revenue. Why they even call it "you" tube at this point is beyond me, should just go full sponsored content and be done with it. It's hilarious, open YouTube in a private window of your browser of choice, and look at what they serve up, try and find something that isn't from a media company,…

Of course, what Youtube shows to an annonymous viewer is the lowest denominator, most popular content; of course those will be from the super creators.

The question we should be asking, is how much of Youtube's revenue comes from the longtail of their content (and how much that longtail acts as a funnel into their service).

Re: YouTube Will Remove Videos of Creators Who Don’t Sign Its Red Subscription Deal

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Post by FussyZeus »

gizmo686 wrote: post #31
FussyZeus wrote: post #16

At this point all the content on youtube is corporate sponsored or belongs to a handful of super-creators that make all the ad revenue. Why they even call it "you" tube at this point is beyond me, should just go full sponsored content and be done with it. It's hilarious, open YouTube in a private window of your browser of choice, and look at what they serve up, try and find something that isn't from a media company,…

Of course, what Youtube shows to an annonymous viewer is the lowest denominator, most popular content; of course those will be from the super creators. The question we should be asking, is how much of Youtube's revenue comes from the longtail of their content (and how much that longtail acts as a funnel into their service).

Very good question that would be hard to get a solid answer to. Though if we're going to go with the lowest denominator, that's also likely going to be the people least likely to block ads, and most likely to view the same videos (likely music) over and over and over. That's just the assumptions I make about people who listen to music on youtube though and may be entirely wrong.

Re: YouTube Will Remove Videos of Creators Who Don’t Sign Its Red Subscription Deal

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Post by Balgair »

krisdol wrote: post #32

So let me get this straight, if I stay on the "free" youtube with my adblocker, I can continue to see all videos ad-free? Or only the non-red ones?

I am wondering about this as well. What is going to happen to my favorite small channels? There are a lot of them with very few, but dedicated fan bases. Can I still watch those with having to fork over 10$/month?

Re: YouTube Will Remove Videos of Creators Who Don’t Sign Its Red Subscription Deal

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Post by piffey »

bargl wrote: post #5

I think this is a bad decision but let's look at Googles options for showing content to users who pay for their service. Option 1: Don't show you videos from creators who don't sign it's deal. Option 2: Show you videos from creators who don't sign it's deal, but include ads. Option 3: Show you videos from creators who don't sign it's deal, but eat the loss. Option 4: Remove videos from creators who don't sign, and yo…

Just let me know when and where they loose this money so I can get some of it.

Re: YouTube Will Remove Videos of Creators Who Don’t Sign Its Red Subscription Deal

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Post by nemothekid »

silverbax88 wrote: post #24
comex wrote: post #11

It's harder for me to get upset at instances of alleged corporate bullying when the result is clearly pro-user. If YouTube allowed video authors to opt out of Red, their only reasonable option (short of turning into a charity for said authors) would be to show Red subscribers those videos with ads. For a user, a service that's only "mostly" ad-free is only a pale imitation of the real thing - especially if labels dec…

It's "pro user" unless it starts to limit new content, which is possible. Many videos are actually on YouTube without ads because they are stored as tutorials, etc. I get why Google wouldn't want to keep hosting them but it could mean a reduction in content.

I'm not sure the new deal affects those uploaders. The deal only affects people who are monetizing today via Ads and don't want to monetize from the Red subscription.

If you are just uploading tutorials, you can just opt out of being a "YouTube Partner" altogether.

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Post by [deleted] »

silverbax88 wrote: post #24
comex wrote: post #11

It's harder for me to get upset at instances of alleged corporate bullying when the result is clearly pro-user. If YouTube allowed video authors to opt out of Red, their only reasonable option (short of turning into a charity for said authors) would be to show Red subscribers those videos with ads. For a user, a service that's only "mostly" ad-free is only a pale imitation of the real thing - especially if labels dec…

It's "pro user" unless it starts to limit new content, which is possible. Many videos are actually on YouTube without ads because they are stored as tutorials, etc. I get why Google wouldn't want to keep hosting them but it could mean a reduction in content.

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Re: YouTube Will Remove Videos of Creators Who Don’t Sign Its Red Subscription Deal

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Post by Alupis »

> But the coercion involved It sets an alarming precedent about how

This is supposed to be two sentences, or remove the "It" from the middle of the sentence.

How is it obvious grammatical and spelling errors make their way into these articles (and seemingly more common now-days)?

These are professional writers, with professional editing staff - however it often feels the article is a first-draft written in one go and then published with zero review.

It's not just TechCrunch, but a lot of tech press (there's a bias to my observation because I read predominately tech press).

It makes it feel as-if the general quality of journalism is declining.

Re: YouTube Will Remove Videos of Creators Who Don’t Sign Its Red Subscription Deal

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Post by 1ris »

kej wrote: post #19

I'm actually kind of surprised that the YouTube terms of service require a new agreement and aren't structured in a way that would allow them to make changes like this unilaterally.

IMHO the concept of unilateral changeable contract does not make any sense. Never. It's a oxymoron.
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