She may be a violinist but she tweets like a sailor. https://twitter.com/mia_matsumiya
Female violinist exposes 10 years of lewd, fetishizing messages from men online
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#12Title should read "female violinist".
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#13I like that she doesn't censor the 'authors' of the messages. Public shaming might be the only remedy against this creepy shit. But that may very well be naive thinking: if these guys would think they were doing something wrong they would probably have used an alias.
Would be funny if they experience harassment out of being exposed as a harassing person. This seems something that could happen on the internet.
> Would be funny if they experience harassment out of being exposed as a harassing person. This seems something that could happen on the internet.
Yeah, the whole vendetta thing certainly is "funny" /s
That's exactly how people defending "righteous causes" end up being trolls and harassers themselves.
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#14There's nothing we can do. Her music reached hundreds of thousands of people, of course there will be some bad apples. As more and more people start using the internet, this is only going to increase. There's going to be 3.5 billion people on the internet soon, nobody can stop that tide.
Celebrities have solved this problem by moving a step away from the population by using publicists and assistants to communicate. Perhaps people facing consistent harassment like this should try something similar? Or work under a pseudonym?
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#15I read that (deep) learning algos can decide if a message is positive or negative. Could they learn if a message is a harassment so we could implement a automatic filter for such things? -- Edit -- I mean this is really bad and we should get these dudes to stop somehow. But it greatly reduced my anger looking into my inbox, when I stopped seeing spam in there. The spammers did never stop...
Wow, that's a genius idea, you must be a very smart person. Last week I heard on BBC Click that Google has open-sourced their deep learning algorithm, so now even people like me can code AI apps. It's actually such a good idea that I am going to start working on it right away for my personal usage as a userscript to hide negative comments and keep only the positive ones on sites like HN, because too often people respond to my comments with nothing but disdain despite my honest intellectual efforts.
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#16She may be a violinist but she tweets like a sailor. https://twitter.com/mia_matsumiya
why is that relevant
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#17There's nothing we can do. Her music reached hundreds of thousands of people, of course there will be some bad apples. As more and more people start using the internet, this is only going to increase. There's going to be 3.5 billion people on the internet soon, nobody can stop that tide. Celebrities have solved this problem by moving a step away from the population by using publicists and assistants to communicate. P…
>> Perhaps people facing consistent harassment like this should try something similar? Or work under a pseudonym?
Perhaps we need to get rid of pseudonyms. A lot of this behavior would stop if people had to be identifiable. Although that doesn't seem to stop them all - you see some real names and email addresses in there.
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#18As is well known, there are lots of people who get some sick pleasure from announcing their vile and chauvinist thoughts. "Real names" don't seem to help. I would guess that the senders of these type of messages are socially isolated enough to not see any real social consequences of openly harassing people, women in particular. So, what's the solution? There doesn't seem to be a proportionate response that life more…
The only solution I could think of would be for confirmed cases of online harassment (however you determine something to be confirmed, I don't know) to be sent to the offender's employer, or for something along those lines be a part of background checks/E-Verify.
You're right, it does seem like the status quo heavily favors abusers and maligns the abused. I'm sure there are several flaws with my idea. I just can't think of much else that could change anything without being extraordinarily invasive or punitive.
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#20There's nothing we can do. Her music reached hundreds of thousands of people, of course there will be some bad apples. As more and more people start using the internet, this is only going to increase. There's going to be 3.5 billion people on the internet soon, nobody can stop that tide. Celebrities have solved this problem by moving a step away from the population by using publicists and assistants to communicate. P…
>> Perhaps people facing consistent harassment like this should try something similar? Or work under a pseudonym? Perhaps we need to get rid of pseudonyms. A lot of this behavior would stop if people had to be identifiable. Although that doesn't seem to stop them all - you see some real names and email addresses in there.
Then post your name and address.