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Academics sharing paywalled papers with a codeword on Twitter

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Re: Academics sharing paywalled papers with a codeword on Twitter

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> The original tweet is deleted, so there's no public record of the paper changing hands. Why is it assumed that there is no public record of the paper changing hands? They tweet the request publicly, so it stands to reason that someone is paying attention and archiving. I suppose the key word here is "public", but I'm not sure why that matters if the goal is covering up illegal activity.

If I were making a secure file request/dropoff operation, I would host a chat room on a TOR hidden service where you could ask for the material in question, and a separate file server where you could upload the file. There would be a client that encrypts the file client-side and uploads it to the service and a client that downloads and decrypts. The uploader would post a link with the key to the forum after uploading…

https://securesha.re/

Re: Academics sharing paywalled papers with a codeword on Twitter

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post #62
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The only "online piracy" I see here is when Elsevier demands US$30 from you to get a copy of a paper written by scientists paid for by your tax dollars, who paid Elsevier page fees to publish it . Elsevier and similar companies are the thieves here, and they have a hell of a lot of nerve to be accusing scientists of "stealing" and "piracy" for working to create the very knowledge Elsevier shamelessly exploits. (Even…

Last week linguists issued Elsevier an ultimatum, demanding fair open access for the journal Lingua [0,1]: > We asked for the following: 1) The journal is transferred to full Open Access status, 2) Article Processing Charges (APCs) cost 400 euros, 3) The copyright of articles remains with the authors, 4) The journal henceforth operates under a cc-by licence, 5) Ownership of the journal is transferred to the collectiv…

Wow, that's very impressive. I hope other journals will follow suit.

Re: Academics sharing paywalled papers with a codeword on Twitter

#95
post #74

It puzzles me that the most significant problem with open access receives little mention, in discussions on HN: it changes the incentives structure of publication, from one where the publisher has to please the ones buying the journal to one where the it has to please the people paying to submit articles. This is what makes the situation profoundly more complex compared to other application of copyright, say in the s…

> … it changes the incentives structure of publication, from one where the publisher has to please the ones buying the journal to one where the it has to please the people paying to submit articles.

I always thought publishing will be free/payed by taxes in an open access world like on arXiv.org.

Re: Academics sharing paywalled papers with a codeword on Twitter

#96
post #87

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Galileo definitely did not luck into the right theory. He was one of the most important scientists of all time, and his heraldry of the empirical scientific method and the results it produced are anything but a product of chance.

Please consult the various citations under links and references provided in this entire subthread, which claim otherwise. Galileo was an important scientist and his model did turn out to be a step in the right direction, but historical record suggests that he didn't have enough evidence to promote his model back at the time.

"enough evidence to promote his model"

I don't know what this is supposed to mean. For Galileo, his observations that Venus had phases, like the Moon, and that Jupiter had its own moons, and more, were enough to convince him that the Copernican theory was more likely to be correct than the geocentric model. We now know that he interpreted the evidence correctly.

Re: Academics sharing paywalled papers with a codeword on Twitter

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Agree completely with the idea of your comment, but I have to nitpick on one thing: > So did the Pope when he sentenced Galileo to life in prison for promoting heliocentrism. As far as we can tell, Galileo was persecuted by the Pope not because of science, but because Galileo was basically an asshole, who abused his friendship with the Pope and then kept venting out against him. The issue was strictly political. See…

'The Structure of Scientific Revolutions' by Thomas Kuhn also tells the actual story of Galileo, as well as a few others, quite well.

A better book by Kuhn about this stuff is The Copernican Revolution. It's original and penetrating history of science without having to read "paradigm" in every paragraph.

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There's a cheaper solution for foundational papers. Go to your library and use interlibrary loan. Some libraries also have copying services. I've been trying track down a paper for the Tanimoto similarity. Quoting Wikipedia, "many sources[3] cite an unavailable IBM Technical Report [4] as the seminal reference", where [4] is: Tanimoto, T. (17 Nov 1957). "An Elementary Mathematical theory of Classification and Predict…

Hopefully the next person after you won't have to search as hard for it, though...

They won't. The next person will easily find it in WorldCat. When I started looking, WorldCat didn't have the record.

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#99
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While everything you say is true (as far as I know) it's still the case that being an asshole and complaining about your friends is not an adequate justification for life imprisonment. In fact, even the Church at the time knew that, which is why they used heliocentrism as an excuse, which has to be one of the worst institutional decisions ever.

> which has to be one of the worst institutional decisions ever That is very, very true. That PR fuckup carried on to this day and age. Three and a half centuries later, people still blame them for that.

Hindsight's 20/20. Jailing some scientist trying to promote some radical new theory is a different matter when you're looking at it from their perspective.

In fact, that'd be almost as reasonable as modern commercial interests arguing against some kind of theory that proposed humans were impacting the climate of the planet...

Re: Academics sharing paywalled papers with a codeword on Twitter

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post #62
post #11

The only "online piracy" I see here is when Elsevier demands US$30 from you to get a copy of a paper written by scientists paid for by your tax dollars, who paid Elsevier page fees to publish it . Elsevier and similar companies are the thieves here, and they have a hell of a lot of nerve to be accusing scientists of "stealing" and "piracy" for working to create the very knowledge Elsevier shamelessly exploits. (Even…

Last week linguists issued Elsevier an ultimatum, demanding fair open access for the journal Lingua [0,1]: > We asked for the following: 1) The journal is transferred to full Open Access status, 2) Article Processing Charges (APCs) cost 400 euros, 3) The copyright of articles remains with the authors, 4) The journal henceforth operates under a cc-by licence, 5) Ownership of the journal is transferred to the collectiv…

Now it looks like Elsevier is not going to cooperate

Are we really surprised? How would you feel if some of your customers demanded you turn your business over to them for zero compensation?

I wish the linguists all the luck in the world starting their new, open-access journal.

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