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Re: Ask HN: Any advice for a programmer who has hit rock bottom?

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I also suffer from depression and anxiety. I have since I was 15 years old. I believe in runs in my family. I've only sought professional treatment for this in the past several years. I see a psychiatrist and I take some medications. It has been difficult. It still is difficult, but I'm doing pretty well. I recommend that you seek out a psychiatrist. A lot of people don't understand that chronic depression and anxiet…

Thanks @alansmitheebk. Your words give me courage to fight back.

Re: Ask HN: Any advice for a programmer who has hit rock bottom?

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The depression doesn't help, but this sounds more like stress. Don't know how much it will help, as I don't suffer from depressin, but occasionally I'll get myself into a rut like that, and I found a few things that help. Sleep at night. No more late nights, give your brain a rest before bed. Limit your caffeine to the morning - and no naps either. Sleep a full 8 hours, and willingly go to bed early enough that you h…

This, exactly! I have problem sleeping early at night. Thoughts and anxiety prevent me from sleeping. I don't have insomnia, I feel very sleepy, but very afraid and restless.

Also, I get overwhelmed by any task at hand. It starts getting procrastinated. Fear creeps in. Confidence takes a hit.

Re: Ask HN: Any advice for a programmer who has hit rock bottom?

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What changed in the past few weeks? Look at this as possibly a somatopsychic issue. Look at dietary changes or other health changes. But also look at other stressors, like breaking up with your SO or having a falling out with a family member. Depression typically comes from one of two sources: 1) wonky brain chemistry, which is a medical issue or 2) some kind of real world problem that leaves you feeling helpless, of…

Not much has changed. My diet, routine etc is the same. My problem is mainly due to wonky brain chemistry, but I haven't faced such an episode in a couple of years.

Re: Ask HN: Any advice for a programmer who has hit rock bottom?

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Things WILL get better. It takes time to find the right medication, but if you don't feel better within 2 weeks tell your doctor and they'll give your something. I've had people close to me go through the same thing and it took a while to finally hone in on something that works. I know it must feel like the most hopeless and frustrating situation, but hang in there. Something out there will work, you just need patien…

Thanks, but the most difficult part is to convince myself that it's not my fault. It always seems my fault.

Re: Ask HN: Any advice for a programmer who has hit rock bottom?

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Work on finding things you can do without anxiety. It will likely be something very different from programming, but it will make you happy! That is the key. You must focus on your own happiness. It will be a tough transition, but consider it. Maybe just do some thought experiments (like "what if I were to get involve with art?" or "what if I built an app to help volunteers do . . . ?". Go slow, but look into very, ve…

Thanks @warrenb. Hopefully this helps.

Re: Ask HN: Any advice for a programmer who has hit rock bottom?

#46
Maybe .... just maybe... you don't like programming that much. Maybe... just maybe... sitting on a computer 5 days a week all day to make some other guy rich IS kind of depressing.

THAT'S OKAY. You can do other stuff. You don't have to be a programmer for the rest of your life. You don't. Don't listen to HN people just telling you to take pills and get on with it. Jesus christ.

If you feel like working the same kind of job that is going pretty much nowhere is pointless... IT IS. That's not necessarily depression or some kind of mental illness.

Re: Ask HN: Any advice for a programmer who has hit rock bottom?

#47
If you read this another thing to try is CBT. It gives you a framework to deal with anxiety and bring it back under control.

There are books that you can work through or you can do a course (probably better). CBT is supposed to be very effective against anxiety. It is actually quite a short program (10 to 20 weeks).

Re: Ask HN: Any advice for a programmer who has hit rock bottom?

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What changed in the past few weeks? Look at this as possibly a somatopsychic issue. Look at dietary changes or other health changes. But also look at other stressors, like breaking up with your SO or having a falling out with a family member. Depression typically comes from one of two sources: 1) wonky brain chemistry, which is a medical issue or 2) some kind of real world problem that leaves you feeling helpless, of…

Not much has changed. My diet, routine etc is the same. My problem is mainly due to wonky brain chemistry, but I haven't faced such an episode in a couple of years.

Hey, I did not see this yesterday.

I have a very serious medical condition. As a side effect, it sometimes jacks up my brain chemistry suddenly and very badly. I have spent nearly 15 years working to get a handle on it and I have made substantial progress. I am pretty confident something has changed in your life. You just do not know what it is.

There is research linking diet and depression. The most solid stuff concerns the role that certains fats/oils play and the impact they have on brain inflammation.

Look some of that up. Start a food diary. I have a food blog where I talk some about things like that (and I was a mess the day I wrote my last entry): Http://miceats.blogspot.com

If you email me or leave comments, I would be happy to have feedback or questions and you can shape the direction the blog goes to some degree by giving me some feedback.

Best of luck.

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