21–30 of 72 posts
We need a society where every person is needed and wanted. We need it more than any dumb technical advance that lessens the need for people, like robots delivering pizza or whatever. That will take some heavy thinking, though, and I feel that we haven't even started.
A lot of us that are building the dumb technical advances that lessen the need for people don't particularly like people, in the general case. I suspect we'll continue to do so.
I'm sorry but this is garbage in my view. We need to use the time we have in order to do the things that are important to us , not to enrich "others" whoever they may be. This obsession about society and socializing and following norms and "fitting in" is one of the things that are seriously fucked up in the western world. We need more people who have gone sideways , more recluses, more geniuses, more people who do n…
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Amazing piece of logic here, "you came out of people -> you depend on people" and "you must like people" is implied. I hate that I have to depend on people. I find them unreliable at best. Which is why a lot of us are working to improve the primitive societies we currently live in in order to REMOVE that dependency. I'd rather depend on algorithms (and in fact I do, more and more every single day that passes) than an…
Liking and disliking are not the only choices. I'm saying to see the world the way it is. Also, would you say your refuge in algorithms is your way of trying to control your reality? Algorithms are straight forward and predictable, unlike people. Thoughts?
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Amazing piece of logic here, "you came out of people -> you depend on people" and "you must like people" is implied. I hate that I have to depend on people. I find them unreliable at best. Which is why a lot of us are working to improve the primitive societies we currently live in in order to REMOVE that dependency. I'd rather depend on algorithms (and in fact I do, more and more every single day that passes) than an…
Algorithms are much more primitive than people by definition. You seem to have intended to convey the opposite, a preference for relying on primitives over complicated persons.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Amazing piece of logic here, "you came out of people -> you depend on people" and "you must like people" is implied. I hate that I have to depend on people. I find them unreliable at best. Which is why a lot of us are working to improve the primitive societies we currently live in in order to REMOVE that dependency. I'd rather depend on algorithms (and in fact I do, more and more every single day that passes) than an…
Algorithms are much more primitive than people by definition. You seem to have intended to convey the opposite, a preference for relying on primitives over complicated persons.
Wrong choice of word, I agree with you.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Liking and disliking are not the only choices. I'm saying to see the world the way it is. Also, would you say your refuge in algorithms is your way of trying to control your reality? Algorithms are straight forward and predictable, unlike people. Thoughts?
I have one thought, which is that no one really needs you saving them via insulting HN comments.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Amazing piece of logic here, "you came out of people -> you depend on people" and "you must like people" is implied. I hate that I have to depend on people. I find them unreliable at best. Which is why a lot of us are working to improve the primitive societies we currently live in in order to REMOVE that dependency. I'd rather depend on algorithms (and in fact I do, more and more every single day that passes) than an…
Liking and disliking are not the only choices. I'm saying to see the world the way it is. Also, would you say your refuge in algorithms is your way of trying to control your reality? Algorithms are straight forward and predictable, unlike people. Thoughts?
From an early age, I found contemporary "people" uninteresting to extremely dull. I had to force myself to socialize with them in order not to become a premature social pariah. It's a lot easier these days.
I'm mostly talking about your average human by the way, not the sum total of humanity.
To give you an example, I enjoy Nietzsche's (another social pariah) writing enormously but I find Nietzsche-the-person mostly uninteresting and boring. This is the outlook I have on life. I'd rather spend my time reading all the treasures we have from the past and trying to understand them, than indulge in pointless socializing.
I don't see myself as weird or crazy. I think I'm simply way ahead of the curve here. Give it 30-40-60 years, human relationships will have degenerated to a degree that far surpasses mine.
When robots can fulfill your every "human" desire (food, sex, companionship) and you are free to do whatever you want with the rest of your time are you going to keep wasting this precious commodity in pursuit of other, "human" relationships or will you finally be able to fully devote yourself to whatever it is that you know, deep down, is your true calling in life?
This is of course assuming that your true calling in life is not "other people" or in other words, current social conditioning or consensus reality. This is when that conditioning will fully break down and society will have advanced a step on the evolutionary ladder.
I never understood this stigma about hermits/social isolation in western societies. In the east, it's much more accepted. Reading this piece I got the impression that the writer and persons interviewed were HORRIFIED by what they discovered. It seemed to me as if "having friends" was pretty fucking high in their list-of-important-things-in-life. I was very amused by this, almost started laughing in fact. Human relati…
In east it is much more accepted? Where exactly in the east? At least from where I come from (southern state in India), being a loner -- especially a loner male -- is seen to be socially unworthy. I know one male relative, that had been divorced and never married since then, who is generally looked down by all of extended family.
Being a hermit with religious/spiritual affiliations on the other hand is different thing entirely. Normal people from my country are expected to fulfill their social responsibilities and duties which, for the men-folk, means supporting their families (women and children) ... and this is far from being accepted as a socially isolated person.
Why, every time I visit my folks in India, our relatives are quick to point out the apparent (to them) deficiency in my life just because I don't have a marital partner to spend my life with (for the Western folks here, they continue to see me as that "lonely old man sitting in the park bench").
I never understood this stigma about hermits/social isolation in western societies. In the east, it's much more accepted. Reading this piece I got the impression that the writer and persons interviewed were HORRIFIED by what they discovered. It seemed to me as if "having friends" was pretty fucking high in their list-of-important-things-in-life. I was very amused by this, almost started laughing in fact. Human relati…
I once heard someone say "You can give everyone else but yourself a soul." While I don't really know what that means, I think of it whenever I'm by myself for long durations (3-4 months on average).
I'm sorry but this is garbage in my view. We need to use the time we have in order to do the things that are important to us , not to enrich "others" whoever they may be. This obsession about society and socializing and following norms and "fitting in" is one of the things that are seriously fucked up in the western world. We need more people who have gone sideways , more recluses, more geniuses, more people who do n…
>> We need more people who have gone sideways, more recluses, more geniuses, more people who do not fit in and do things their own way. Otherwise what's the point?
What is the point of what. Different people want different things from life.
>> I understand that this may sound alien or maybe crazy to people who have grown up in western societies and therefore been indoctrinated to an extreme degree to seek the approval of others and so on, but that's all there is to it really, social conditioning.
I come from an 'Eastern' society and living well with others is as fundamental to my society as it appears to be in the west. Not everyone wants to live their life in solitude to be remembered in eternity. Calling it 'indoctrination' is generalizing what is essentially your opinion to a serious degree.