I'm skeptical. If it's true then Microsoft's legal department dropped the ball: lawsuits of the class-action and anti-trust variety would promptly follow such a move.
Microsoft Removes the Option to Opt Out of Windows 10 Free Upgrade?
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Re: Microsoft Removes the Option to Opt Out of Windows 10 Free Upgrade?
#82This must be false, or a mistake on MS' part. For example, what about the users who have perfectly valid full Win 7 licenses (that you can move from a PC to another) would be forced to upgrade to a partial Win 10 license that invalidates as soon as they do major hardware upgrades?
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#83This is criminal. I think a case could be made here for unauthorized access under the CFAA for users who don't want to switch but are switched anyway. Microsoft is clearly overstepping its bounds and accessing files that it has no permission to. In fact, there's no way to know what it's accessing and W10 can actually be seen as malware that intentionally sends data to MS (which it does).
The only reason we're not looking at criminal charges here is because this is MS. There is absolutely no difference between this W10 behavior and malware except that most malware is nowhere near this harmful. And in this case, we know that MS has both a motive and actual intent to do harm and access a system it was not given authorization to access.
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#84Is this story true? If so, can anyone find a more substantive source for it?
In the meantime, we added a question mark to the title.
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
>P2P share windows updates with any windows computer on the internet I'm not sure that concerns me since they're doing signature verification on the data before doing anything with it.
I think you're missing the point of concern here. That would be one, but let's just hope that Microsoft is smart enough to validate the data gotten from P2P updates. That still brings up the issue that Microsoft is leveraging my broadband connection, my power and my computer(s) that I pay for to issue updates to their customers without even asking. That's not ok.
Definitely. My mother has a 3gb cap on her broadband every month and this is going to basically break it.
Fuck them for even daring to do this. It's authoritarian arrogance, nothing more.
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#86> While switching to a new OS, especially Windows 10 is definitely a good move Who is claiming this? Maybe for hardware known to have good Windows 10 support it's a good move. For me, I've had more blue screens in the last month than I had in the 10 years before that. Lots of poor driver support (fingerprint reader doesn't work, touchpad reverts settings after every boot, crashes). The user experience is an upgrade f…
I don't even bother upgrading Windows on laptops. It's better to wait until all of the drivers are fully supported by the manufacturer then do a clean install. I don't know what Microsoft is thinking. Laptops are incredibly fragile from a driver perspective because of all the non-standard and model specific things they do.
Actually, most things laptops do are pretty generic, but manufacturers seem obsessed about owning the "experience" of doing the most basic things.
My ThinkPad T430 runs Windows 10 without any Lenovo crapware, and it's such a smooth experience. No more invisible windows randomly popping up in the taskbar, stealing my keyboard focus, no more dozens of TPCRAP.EXE in my autostart.
Re: Microsoft Removes the Option to Opt Out of Windows 10 Free Upgrade?
#87> While switching to a new OS, especially Windows 10 is definitely a good move Who is claiming this? Maybe for hardware known to have good Windows 10 support it's a good move. For me, I've had more blue screens in the last month than I had in the 10 years before that. Lots of poor driver support (fingerprint reader doesn't work, touchpad reverts settings after every boot, crashes). The user experience is an upgrade f…
Microsoft has been pushing to put himself back into the stage lights (open source, surface pro|book engineering). If they were willing to really give users help and resources, maybe deals for hardware upgrade so customers have the smoothest upgrade possible it would make a difference. Musk have been doing this with Tesla, every time something caused troubles, he gave it for "free".
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't even bother upgrading Windows on laptops. It's better to wait until all of the drivers are fully supported by the manufacturer then do a clean install. I don't know what Microsoft is thinking. Laptops are incredibly fragile from a driver perspective because of all the non-standard and model specific things they do.
Actually, most things laptops do are pretty generic, but manufacturers seem obsessed about owning the "experience" of doing the most basic things. My ThinkPad T430 runs Windows 10 without any Lenovo crapware, and it's such a smooth experience. No more invisible windows randomly popping up in the taskbar, stealing my keyboard focus, no more dozens of TPCRAP.EXE in my autostart.
Do you use TrackPoint? If you do, these drivers are inevitable. Considering how fragile and inconsistent across models and versions they are I'd say good luck.
Nice coinage: "TPCRAP.EXE"
Re: Microsoft Removes the Option to Opt Out of Windows 10 Free Upgrade?
#89What about people with bandwidth caps?
Take Microsoft to small claims court for any over-limit fees caused by forced downloads.
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
That was about Windows Update "mistakenly" installing Windows 10. The OP is about GWX removing the option to delay the upgrade.
I wonder how all of the Microsoft haters who think this is "not a mistake" feel about other conspiracy theories? What do you know about lizard people?
You may be interested in this older documentary: https://youtu.be/DfsK6DuNhnc?t=2208 about the psychology of conspiracy theorists. The psychologists claim that they can predict who will believe in conspiracy theories, and they use as a dividing test the following question to separate conspiracy theorists from healthy trustful people:
"The government is using mobile phone technology to track people all the time. Yes/No."
Also includes an interview with David Icke.
I don't think that question is decisive anymore...