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Microsoft Removes the Option to Opt Out of Windows 10 Free Upgrade?

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Re: Microsoft Removes the Option to Opt Out of Windows 10 Free Upgrade?

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Post by d2xdy2 »

pcunite wrote: post #18

My concern with Windows 10, and I expect it to get addressed, is having a platform underneath me keep changing. I don't want to get in my car one day and find out that the gas pedal has changed positions with the brake. I expect my OS to be just as consistent in this regard. So, for me, I need a way to say, "I don't ever want to upgrade automatically. I'll upgrade when I'm ready".

On a tangent, how do you feel about Tesla doing OTA updates for core functionality on their cars? Stuff like "autopilot" and whatnot.

Re: Microsoft Removes the Option to Opt Out of Windows 10 Free Upgrade?

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Post by sigzero »

maratd wrote: post #17
userbinator wrote: post #10

While switching to a new OS, especially Windows 10 is definitely a good move Microsoft would certainly promote that view, but is it really? Am I one of the minority of users who prefers a stable environment customised exactly as I want it, instead of "latest and greatest"?

Disable the Windows Update service. Microsoft will never bother you again and you can have your exact, perfected experience for all eternity.

As your system becomes a zombie on some bot-net.

Re: Microsoft Removes the Option to Opt Out of Windows 10 Free Upgrade?

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Post by xeromal »

d2xdy2 wrote: post #21
pcunite wrote: post #18

My concern with Windows 10, and I expect it to get addressed, is having a platform underneath me keep changing. I don't want to get in my car one day and find out that the gas pedal has changed positions with the brake. I expect my OS to be just as consistent in this regard. So, for me, I need a way to say, "I don't ever want to upgrade automatically. I'll upgrade when I'm ready".

On a tangent, how do you feel about Tesla doing OTA updates for core functionality on their cars? Stuff like "autopilot" and whatnot.

The difference is that for their new features like autopilot, you actually pay for the upgrade like DLC.

Re: Microsoft Removes the Option to Opt Out of Windows 10 Free Upgrade?

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Post by xamuel »

Up until 2013 or so, I was always a PC guy. I wanted to be a PC guy. But Microsoft did, and continues to do, everything in their power to change my mind about that. I still have one old laptop running Windows 7, the instant they force-upgrade that is the instant I bid adieu to the last remnant of Microsoft in my home computing life.

Re: Microsoft Removes the Option to Opt Out of Windows 10 Free Upgrade?

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Post by vezzy-fnord »

xamuel wrote: post #24

Up until 2013 or so, I was always a PC guy. I wanted to be a PC guy. But Microsoft did, and continues to do, everything in their power to change my mind about that. I still have one old laptop running Windows 7, the instant they force-upgrade that is the instant I bid adieu to the last remnant of Microsoft in my home computing life.

Speaking of which, using the term "PC" to describe x86 Windows machines somewhat compatible with IBM PC standards (a.k.a. "Wintel") desperately needs to die.

Re: Microsoft Removes the Option to Opt Out of Windows 10 Free Upgrade?

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Post by davnicwil »

I may have some of the facts wrong here, but I think this means that upgraded systems will also start to run Microsoft's evergreen browser Edge, in place of IE, as the default browser.

It seems like this aspect, at least, could be a very good thing. Thinking about the very non-technical and casual user who uses the default IE and doesn't upgrade/switch for no particular reason other than some mixture of doesn't know it'll be better/afraid of breaking something/doesn't know how.

It'll just kill all those IE 8s/9s/10s still running out there that, really, should be replaced. Yes, it's a little brute force, but I can't see this being anything other than a good thing for (the vast majority of) these users and for developers.

Re: Microsoft Removes the Option to Opt Out of Windows 10 Free Upgrade?

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Post by Silhouette »

This article seems to be light on specifics and completely devoid of verifiable sources.

If Microsoft actually did force an involuntary upgrade this, it seems likely they would be on the receiving end of real lawsuits or even facing criminal charges for unauthorised access to computer systems (particularly if they did it to anyone who had actively avoided installing or keeping earlier updates related to Windows 10), not to mention any later formal data protection complaints over Windows 10's privacy implications, opening the floodgates to complaints under consumer protection legislation, and other risks. Even given that I wouldn't trust Microsoft as far as I could throw it at this point, I still doubt they're arrogant/naive enough to go that far.

Is this just a vaguely rehashed story about one of the optional updates being ticked by default from the other day?

Re: Microsoft Removes the Option to Opt Out of Windows 10 Free Upgrade?

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Post by IvyMike »

userbinator wrote: post #10

While switching to a new OS, especially Windows 10 is definitely a good move Microsoft would certainly promote that view, but is it really? Am I one of the minority of users who prefers a stable environment customised exactly as I want it, instead of "latest and greatest"?

There have been some pretty significant under-the-hood security upgrades in each new version of Windows. So while the UI changes are what users notice, the new security features are probably the more important reason to upgrade.
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