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So let me see if I follow. It is completely rational and even considered informational to post some strawmen about 2 or 3 recruiters. HOWEVER, knowing hundreds of recruiters and talking about their actual behavior is not rational. "You think knowing a couple hundred means you know how they all act, or even a majority?" I...what? Are we just coming up with the dumbest, most obtuse questions possible? Again, what shred…
Please stop.
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So let me see if I follow. It is completely rational and even considered informational to post some strawmen about 2 or 3 recruiters. HOWEVER, knowing hundreds of recruiters and talking about their actual behavior is not rational. "You think knowing a couple hundred means you know how they all act, or even a majority?" I...what? Are we just coming up with the dumbest, most obtuse questions possible? Again, what shred…
Please stop.
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So let me see if I follow. It is completely rational and even considered informational to post some strawmen about 2 or 3 recruiters. HOWEVER, knowing hundreds of recruiters and talking about their actual behavior is not rational. "You think knowing a couple hundred means you know how they all act, or even a majority?" I...what? Are we just coming up with the dumbest, most obtuse questions possible? Again, what shred…
>So let me see if I follow. You obviously don't, so you may want to give up or try again.
The idea that in the end, you not only think that your original point was rational, but you're being snarky and talking down to the person who simply said "I know lots of people in this industry and I've had the opposite opinion of the OP". You seem to get way too much enjoyment from being a snarky dickhead to strangers on the internet for this to be a result of anything other than some issues on your part. Hopefully you fix that.
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So let me see if I follow. It is completely rational and even considered informational to post some strawmen about 2 or 3 recruiters. HOWEVER, knowing hundreds of recruiters and talking about their actual behavior is not rational. "You think knowing a couple hundred means you know how they all act, or even a majority?" I...what? Are we just coming up with the dumbest, most obtuse questions possible? Again, what shred…
Please stop.
You do realize that there is an entire IT Industry outside of Facebook and Google?
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10399372 and marked it off-topic.
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Honestly it seems like the author has some serious problems. I know hundreds of recruiters having been at Google and Facebook and not a single one of them thinks like this at all. To say "now grovel and be exploited" about a process where the person will almost certainly end up with a fantastic offer for an engineering job in a comfortable office with great pay and great working conditions may actually be the least s…
> I know hundreds of recruiters having been at Google and Facebook and not a single one of them thinks like this at all. Congrats. That must be how the entire industry works then > a process where the person will almost certainly end up with a fantastic offer for an engineering job in a comfortable office with great pay and great working conditions Yeah, bull-shit, if you think every engineering job is in a comfy off…
To end the post with saying "you are severely disillusioned as to the true state of your industry." is just like, jesus man, are you going for some sort of insufferability award? Go outside. Perhaps there is something more rewarding there than grasping at straws to get mad at a stranger on the internet...
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Honestly it seems like the author has some serious problems. I know hundreds of recruiters having been at Google and Facebook and not a single one of them thinks like this at all. To say "now grovel and be exploited" about a process where the person will almost certainly end up with a fantastic offer for an engineering job in a comfortable office with great pay and great working conditions may actually be the least s…
"To say "now grovel and be exploited" about a process where the person will almost certainly end up with a fantastic offer for an engineering job in a comfortable office with great pay and great working conditions may actually be the least self aware thing I've ever seen a human being write." It was at this point that you lost me. You've clearly been lucky enough to never had a crappy job.
I'm getting a lot of REALLY bizarre straw men responses to my posts but this one has to take the cake.
You managed to turn me saying that people should stop bitching about IT recruiters calling them for offices jobs that pay well and have great conditions ito a conclusion that I have CLEARLY never had a crappy job? I...what? How? How does a human brain take my input and produce your output? I'm blown away.
I'll give you a hint. No recruiter called me for my crappy jobs. I went and applied for them. Sorry this doesn't fit into your projection that you were clearly qualified to make from that single thing I said.
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£20k/year is exactly what I'm on. My problem at the moment is that I've been working just a bit more than 2 years now, and I absolutely love what I'm doing. I'm part of the engine team on a game that will be one of the biggest releases of 2016, and learning a tonne every day. I got very flexible hours, private health insurance and 30 days of paid vacation days a year. It's just the pay that's abysmal. I've got two co…
Will you at least get a portion of the sales on the game? If the game really will be one of the biggest releases next year, a 20k salary is likely nothing compared to residuals/bonuses that might accrue to you.
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> I know hundreds of recruiters having been at Google and Facebook and not a single one of them thinks like this at all. Congrats. That must be how the entire industry works then > a process where the person will almost certainly end up with a fantastic offer for an engineering job in a comfortable office with great pay and great working conditions Yeah, bull-shit, if you think every engineering job is in a comfy off…
I'm impressed at your infinite snark and sarcasm to actual arguments ratio. When you START your post with a combination of intentionally misunderstanding my point with the sarcasm tag than it is literally impossible to take you seriously. To end the post with saying "you are severely disillusioned as to the true state of your industry." is just like, jesus man, are you going for some sort of insufferability award? Go…
At least in the US, the whole recruiting industry hit its nadir during the dot-com bubble of 2000. I remember getting a cold-call from a recruiter, "Hey, got a great gig at a soon-to-IPO startup for a Solaris and Linux guru", "No thanks", hang up, the phone next to me rings, same dude, literally just dialing up the extension tree. My boss at the time had a strategy where whenever a recruiter called offering "top notc…
Then again I'm also in the US. Sounds like the UK could really use some help with these guys, assuming the source is good.