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Hacker Who Sent Me Heroin Faces Charges in U.S

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Re: Hacker Who Sent Me Heroin Faces Charges in U.S

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"I say to you againe, doe not call up Any that you can not put downe"

This sounds like advice never to begin farming.

As a farm boy who grew up on a wheat farm, at the end of the season after harvesting the wheat that we had "brought up" in the spring or the previous winter, we would plow the remainder under, bringing it down again.

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post #43

Payment information contained in those emails — including shipping and other account information — put the happy couple and their young son in Naples, Italy. I am not at all surprised they found him in Naples. That city is a festering breeding ground for scammers, fraudsters, mafiosi, Camorra, and every kind and type of unscrupulous person. I have never hated a city I've visited so much as Naples.

I was born in the US...Not to stereotype a whole city or region...but my parents grew up near Naples. A lot of their world view (and that of their napolitani immigrant friends) seems governed by a philosophy of "the world is out to scam you. Be very careful about the people you put your tust in" Ive always found it difficult to reconcile the general optimism of American culture with their ever present wariness.

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#83
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you there -- and the Naples Underground (old cisterns that became bomb shelters) are neat, and Pompeii is an hour away. Those, however, are the sole 3 reasons for going. I tell my friends who visit Italy that if they pass through Naples, you go to Da Michele and get 2 pizzas, check out the underground, take a daytrip to Pompeii, and then get the away from Naples asap.

What about the Museo Nazionale Romano? The Museo di Capodimonte? Castel nuovo? Gothic and Baroque churches? Art nouveau architecture? Ischia and Procida? You clearly haven't spent nearly enough time exploring, probably because of your preconceptions.

I forgot the Museo Nazionale. There are a lot of interesting things in Naples, but many of those things can be seen in other cities. My dislike of Naples is not a preconception, it is a conception borne from experiences I had in the city.

But thank you for the ad hominem that I "clearly haven't spent nearly enough time exploring".

Re: Hacker Who Sent Me Heroin Faces Charges in U.S

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This statement has very serious implications:

    According to a trusted source in the security community, that
    email account was somehow compromised in 2013. The source said
    the account was full of emailed reports from a keylogging
    device ...
If I understand "security community" to mean law enforcement or intelligence agencies, that means they are sharing data from surveillance of private individuals with journalists.

This suggests that assurances about the security of that data and the integrity of their processes are not reliable. Who else is given this data? You may like Krebs and think it's justified, but who decides whose private data is ok to leak? What about your private data?

Re: Hacker Who Sent Me Heroin Faces Charges in U.S

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post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about the Museo Nazionale Romano? The Museo di Capodimonte? Castel nuovo? Gothic and Baroque churches? Art nouveau architecture? Ischia and Procida? You clearly haven't spent nearly enough time exploring, probably because of your preconceptions.

I forgot the Museo Nazionale. There are a lot of interesting things in Naples, but many of those things can be seen in other cities. My dislike of Naples is not a preconception , it is a conception borne from experiences I had in the city. But thank you for the ad hominem that I "clearly haven't spent nearly enough time exploring".

How is that ad hominem? I don't know anything about your nationality, background or anything else. If I said you clearly hate Naples because you're from Milan that would be ad hominem, but I've reached this conclusion from your words only.

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This statement has very serious implications: According to a trusted source in the security community, that email account was somehow compromised in 2013. The source said the account was full of emailed reports from a keylogging device ... If I understand "security community" to mean law enforcement or intelligence agencies, that means they are sharing data from surveillance of private individuals with journalists. T…

I'm not sure that I agree with your policework there. The "security community" here almost certainly refers to a private security researcher or firm. I can't see why it would have been a government source.

In general direct information sharing is one of the most important things in information security, but the government has its hands tied in this area in a way that private companies do not.

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post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not saying criminals don't kill people. I'm simply making a point about assuming all criminals are the same. There are plenty of white-collar criminals that have and will cause the death of innocent people and there are plenty of violent criminals that won't purposefully cross the line to killing a person. If for no other reason, we should be wary about stereotyping criminals because what is considered criminal i…

What I think is dangerous is confirming that he got the Xmas card . Depending how that was sent, he has confirmed that he hasn't relocated his home and that puts him in danger. If Fly wanted revenge, he wouldn't want to hire a hit on the wrong house, now would he? Confirming his family is still in that house makes it a target for a hit or arson if Fly seeks revenge. Even if Fly was not already a criminal - merely a t…

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Re: Hacker Who Sent Me Heroin Faces Charges in U.S

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post #79
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not saying criminals don't kill people. I'm simply making a point about assuming all criminals are the same. There are plenty of white-collar criminals that have and will cause the death of innocent people and there are plenty of violent criminals that won't purposefully cross the line to killing a person. If for no other reason, we should be wary about stereotyping criminals because what is considered criminal i…

What I think is dangerous is confirming that he got the Xmas card . Depending how that was sent, he has confirmed that he hasn't relocated his home and that puts him in danger. If Fly wanted revenge, he wouldn't want to hire a hit on the wrong house, now would he? Confirming his family is still in that house makes it a target for a hit or arson if Fly seeks revenge. Even if Fly was not already a criminal - merely a t…

I was responding specifically to:

> I guess thinking about it further, the 'good' news is that if the criminal was successful at what he did and had a couple grand to hire a hitman - he wouldn't have needed to crowdfund the heroin. So you're right in that it's more likely a small time, not-black-market-rich troll rather than someone more dangerous.

There's a couple ways to interpret that. One is that he didn't have money because he crowdsourced his scheme, which I think is fallacious on a few levels (e.g. maybe he crowdsourced it because it was a community rep thing, and he wanted to be seen organizing it). The other is that he only sent the heroin because he didn't have the money to hire the killer which he would have if he had the money, which is how I read it. Perhaps you meant the former. but my replies were meant to address the latter. I don't disagree with any of your replies, but they are non-sequiturs to mine, likely because we are arguing separate things.

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