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While I don't entirely agree, this article put me off a little. The first three paragraphs didn't make sense to me and seemed like you said, anecdotal/rumor. Same with the part about Chenault at the Museum of Natural History event with Sheryl Sandberg and how "yet his dark slacks were creased, and his shoes gleamed as if they'd just been polished." Reads as if the author has something personal in this. What was he su…
I got the impression the author was trying to reinforce the image of Amex being a stodgy Wall Street company that is increasingly out of touch with technology and culture.
How Bad Will It Get for American Express?
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2.5% transaction fees instead of 2%. The average grocery store has a profit margin of 1% to 3%, from what I understand.
Yeah, it's as simple as that. When their product that is 25% more expensive than competitors and less useful (accepted at less retailers), they deserve to get knocked off their pedestal. No one cares about the Amex brand. They are a commodity provider in the payment market.
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#63For something as fungible as credit card transactions, it's hard to understand how a "brand" could be truly valuable. (Or is the grocery store cashier secretly really impressed when I produce my Amex Blue?)
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#64For something as fungible as credit card transactions, it's hard to understand how a "brand" could be truly valuable. (Or is the grocery store cashier secretly really impressed when I produce my Amex Blue?)
The AmEx brand is—or, at least, originally was —aimed at people who don't care about the cash or discount rewards most other cards offer, and would rather have massages in airports, on-call concierges, personal shoppers, and so on. Just getting the mystical Centurion Card (aka the "Black" Card) requires being personally invited by the company after spending at least $21,000 a month on AmEx cards. They have no credit…
To be fair, none of AmEx's charge cards have a limit. But even the Centurion Card will get declined if you try to spend too much, they just don't tell you what "too much" is. I would even bet that the credit limit formulas across all their charge cards are the same and that the inputs are purely customer & purchase specific.
Note that AmEx DOES have credit limits on their credit cards, where the distinction between charge & credit cards is that you "have" to pay off the charge card balance each month (although that isn't even totally true any more).
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Yeah, this struck me as odd: > Who cares what card you have if you’re paying for your expensive meal through your smartphone’s digital wallet? Digital payments didn't kill Amex-as-a-status-symbol, the productization and growing availability of credit cards of all brands did. A status symbol brand doesn't send unsolicited junk mail asking for people to sign up for its product.
It seems to me like the company is caught between a rock and a hard place: the only way to make the card popularly accepted enough that the high-end "status" cardholders can use it anywhere they like is to dilute the brand by convincing as many people as possible to use it.
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#66Not a fan of elitism, however one good effect AMEX has on people who use their charge cards is to make them be more responsible with their spending habits. Credit cards make their money by charging interest on revolving credit, which steers people toward being less responsible with their spending. Ironically, I think the people who would stand to benefit the most from a charge card, those just getting started i.e. in…
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#68For something as fungible as credit card transactions, it's hard to understand how a "brand" could be truly valuable. (Or is the grocery store cashier secretly really impressed when I produce my Amex Blue?)
But brand relies to some degree on information asymmetry. As a consumer, you assume that a prestigious brand is somehow better, and to whatever degree your assumption is based on pure speculation, the stronger you buy into that assumption. These days, information is widely available at a moment's lookup. You can compare as never before, across as many scenarios as you like. Interchangeable services, like credit cards, are revealed for what they are. Couple this with the fact that cards are becoming a means to an end, and no longer the physical payment mechanism they once were, and the prestige and mystique of a certain color of plastic fades even faster.
These days, the benefits of holding one card over another can be reduced in seconds to a rough mathematical function. How many vendors accept this card? What are the annual fees? What are the interest rates? What is the expected value of the fringe benefits? Amex pioneered the loyalty card ("affinity card," to use the article's parlance) as a means of locking in better fringe benefits. But now everyone's got a loyalty card, and partners in the travel and retail sectors have deals with almost everyone.
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#69For something as fungible as credit card transactions, it's hard to understand how a "brand" could be truly valuable. (Or is the grocery store cashier secretly really impressed when I produce my Amex Blue?)
I've live in New York and I've literally never been to a single bar or grocery store that accepts American Express. Anyone know why this is?
The vast majority of bars and even most grocery stores in NYC accept AmEx.
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#70Not a fan of elitism, however one good effect AMEX has on people who use their charge cards is to make them be more responsible with their spending habits. Credit cards make their money by charging interest on revolving credit, which steers people toward being less responsible with their spending. Ironically, I think the people who would stand to benefit the most from a charge card, those just getting started i.e. in…
Most of Amex's non-corporate business now is regular ole credit cards.
Most mid-to-high-end Amex cards (which generate the majority of revenue) are still charge cards.