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Hacker Who Sent Me Heroin Faces Charges in U.S

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Re: Hacker Who Sent Me Heroin Faces Charges in U.S

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Post by CPLX »

pierrec wrote: post #39
tptacek wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are complaining that Krebs doxxed a credit card scammer who tried to frame him for dealing heroin?

Framing someone for dealing heroin is criminal and morally terrible. The guy's certainly paying and going to prison for it, and for his other crimes. This is justice doing its job. The question that I'm trying to ask is whether public shaming, especially to such a large audience, is really a civilized response. The consequences are also devastating, and reduce the possibilities of getting a second chance at life, som…

> whether public shaming, especially to such a large audience, is really a civilized response.

This concept is also often referred to by it's more common name: "journalism"

Re: Hacker Who Sent Me Heroin Faces Charges in U.S

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Post by data_spy »

comrh wrote: post #34
rufugee wrote: post #20

so I began looking through databases of hacked carding and cybercrime forums Where does one acquire these databases? Genuinely curious...

Read through Kreb's archive, he has screenshots and more info. If I remember correctly one was on the clearnet but required some sort of verification before you got access.

I've been a fan of Krebs for a while. He get's a lot of access and information from other hackers (that were pissed at another hacker) or security analysts. Gotta give him props though, he taught himself a lot, including learning Russian

Re: Hacker Who Sent Me Heroin Faces Charges in U.S

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Post by thaumasiotes »

tptacek wrote: post #29
x5n1 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surprising that a judge doesn't make a mistake all the freaking time. The legal system is a religion, it has little basis in reason.

Think in terms of branches of government. The executive branch investigates crimes, and the judicial adjudicates them. The exclusionary rule is designed to punish the executive branch for abusing the Fourth Amendment. But if it's the judge that's mistaken, it's the judicial, not the executive, at fault, and the incentive behind the exclusionary principle ceases to exist. (If it helps: the US's exclusionary rule is si…

Why should there be no penalty to the judicial branch for abusing the fourth amendment?

Re: Hacker Who Sent Me Heroin Faces Charges in U.S

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Post by spacehome »

balls187 wrote: post #46
mmanfrin wrote: post #19

Payment information contained in those emails — including shipping and other account information — put the happy couple and their young son in Naples, Italy. I am not at all surprised they found him in Naples. That city is a festering breeding ground for scammers, fraudsters, mafiosi, Camorra, and every kind and type of unscrupulous person. I have never hated a city I've visited so much as Naples.

Season world traveler, and the only place I have been scammed was Naples. The waiter pulled the "show you the receipt then take it away." I think I was out an extra 40 euro before I realized what happened. Edit to explain the scam: The waiter brings you the bill, and the price looks "reasonable" at first (maybe because humans are bad at money estimation). The waiter takes the bill away before you can inspect each cha…

What is the "show you the receipt" scam?

Re: Hacker Who Sent Me Heroin Faces Charges in U.S

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Post by ufmace »

balls187 wrote: post #46
mmanfrin wrote: post #19

Payment information contained in those emails — including shipping and other account information — put the happy couple and their young son in Naples, Italy. I am not at all surprised they found him in Naples. That city is a festering breeding ground for scammers, fraudsters, mafiosi, Camorra, and every kind and type of unscrupulous person. I have never hated a city I've visited so much as Naples.

Season world traveler, and the only place I have been scammed was Naples. The waiter pulled the "show you the receipt then take it away." I think I was out an extra 40 euro before I realized what happened. Edit to explain the scam: The waiter brings you the bill, and the price looks "reasonable" at first (maybe because humans are bad at money estimation). The waiter takes the bill away before you can inspect each cha…

How does that work exactly?

Re: Hacker Who Sent Me Heroin Faces Charges in U.S

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Post by biot »

icehawk219 wrote: post #7

One thing I'm curious about with stuff like this is how some of the information gets given to the authorities and how it's allowed to be used in court. I imagine I can't just walk into my local police station, file a report, and go "so I have this illegal copy of a database that let me illegally access someones email account that contained illegally acquired information ...". Wouldn't that be inadmissible in court ev…

Also "Not long after that, I secretly gained access to his forum" seems like a CFAA violation. Though law enforcement may not care to prosecute, I don't see how it's different from "I secretly gained access to an internal AT&T forum" which would likely see an average citizen facing years in prison.

Re: Hacker Who Sent Me Heroin Faces Charges in U.S

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Post by klodolph »

ta0n0n0 wrote: post #42
tptacek wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Think in terms of branches of government. The executive branch investigates crimes, and the judicial adjudicates them. The exclusionary rule is designed to punish the executive branch for abusing the Fourth Amendment. But if it's the judge that's mistaken, it's the judicial, not the executive, at fault, and the incentive behind the exclusionary principle ceases to exist. (If it helps: the US's exclusionary rule is si…

Doesn't the fact that a judge's career depends on promotion by the executive branch create such an incentive?

It's more complicated than that... in order for the judge to abuse the system this way, the police would have to be acting in good faith, but still bring a groundless request to the judge, who would have to figure out that the warrant was groundless but decide to issue it anyway. That's a pretty unlikely scenario.

Here's a comic about the 4th amendment: http://lawcomic.net/guide/?p=1604

Re: Hacker Who Sent Me Heroin Faces Charges in U.S

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Post by pjc50 »

mmanfrin wrote: post #19

Payment information contained in those emails — including shipping and other account information — put the happy couple and their young son in Naples, Italy. I am not at all surprised they found him in Naples. That city is a festering breeding ground for scammers, fraudsters, mafiosi, Camorra, and every kind and type of unscrupulous person. I have never hated a city I've visited so much as Naples.

I recently read the extraordinary Naples 44, the diary of a British intelligence officer assigned to the place after its capture by the Allies. He talks about all of those things and more, including the theft of food from the army on a massive scale. Counterintuitively he loved the place.

Re: Hacker Who Sent Me Heroin Faces Charges in U.S

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Post by jstanley »

balls187 wrote: post #46
mmanfrin wrote: post #19

Payment information contained in those emails — including shipping and other account information — put the happy couple and their young son in Naples, Italy. I am not at all surprised they found him in Naples. That city is a festering breeding ground for scammers, fraudsters, mafiosi, Camorra, and every kind and type of unscrupulous person. I have never hated a city I've visited so much as Naples.

Season world traveler, and the only place I have been scammed was Naples. The waiter pulled the "show you the receipt then take it away." I think I was out an extra 40 euro before I realized what happened. Edit to explain the scam: The waiter brings you the bill, and the price looks "reasonable" at first (maybe because humans are bad at money estimation). The waiter takes the bill away before you can inspect each cha…

Is the scam that they've added extra charges to the bill, and therefore don't want to give you time to read it?
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