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Re: Be Suspicious of Online Movie Ratings

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I'm curious, what was the 95% fresh movie that you thought was the worst movie in 2 decades?

Snowpiercer. I'm sure some people love it, but I could not think of a single redeeming thing after I got done. I honestly preferred "The Room", (though that ones 'quality' was unintentional.)

Oh thank you thank you thank you.

Turgid nonsense. I couldn't watch past the first half hour. If I'd paid to see that at the movies I'd have been properly angry.

Re: Be Suspicious of Online Movie Ratings

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The site you linked is unreadable because they write everything in all-caps. Unfortunate considering that the titles sound interesting and that there's lively discussion in the comments.

I forgot to mention the part where all Film Crit Hulk reviews are written in the first person as the Incredible Hulk - hence the all-caps. Certainly a valid criticism. Other authors on the site use proper capitalization. I never found it that big a deal, mildly distracting at best, but I can understand where it turns off others. Seems the design decision for gains in immersion(?) caused a larger tradeoff in readabili…

Ahh, thanks for the explanation. Probably takes getting used to. The converting website you linked was a big help. Now that I'm actually reading the content there is some great discussion of the topics.

Re: Be Suspicious of Online Movie Ratings

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Oh wow, that's rich. Quoting from the article: Sites like Rotten Tomatoes that aggregate movie reviews into one overall rating are being blamed for poor opening weekends. The best part is that the quote above even provides a link to the reference they are using for the made statement.[0] In effect, the studios are complaining that news of the films' crappiness are spreading too fast . Let that sink in. The studios co…

The same arguments are made when "pre-release" copies appear online. The last thing the studios want is informed consumers.

I say "pre-release" because more often than not the film has been released in one market but not another, for instance to set-top boxes in asia while it is still in theaters in north america.

The games industry follows the same pattern. Reviewers with early access, actual early access, are routinely barred from saying anything publicly until the game is released. Publishers don't want knowledge of potentially game-breaking bugs getting out prior to purchase.

Re: Be Suspicious of Online Movie Ratings

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Oh wow, that's rich. Quoting from the article: Sites like Rotten Tomatoes that aggregate movie reviews into one overall rating are being blamed for poor opening weekends. The best part is that the quote above even provides a link to the reference they are using for the made statement.[0] In effect, the studios are complaining that news of the films' crappiness are spreading too fast . Let that sink in. The studios co…

Sometimes I get really excited when, in rare circumstances, the bottom line is suddenly tied directly to the quality of a product, and not just the roll-out from the sellers PR machine. Frankly, I didn't expect online reviews to have that much of an effect, but it feels so good to have the money do the talking in this case.

Re: Be Suspicious of Online Movie Ratings

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Of all the ratings, IMDB are the most useless of all. Especially for quality movies that have gathered enough of a reputation to be watched by the masses of tv or netflex, who then proceed to rate them low for being "boring".

Pretty much all of those converge on a rating of around 6.2, including some great classics, whilst lots of Hollywood lightweight entertainment has 7+ ratings.

The only good cinema to escape this faith are black & white and non-English speaking movies, because the unwashed masses of IMDB avoid those.

Re: Be Suspicious of Online Movie Ratings

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> If the rank is lower on Fandango and higher on Rotten Tomatoes, it's usually a bit too artsy and pretentious for me (I go watch a movie to be entertained, not to stoke my ego). Crass anti-intellectualism. I like the Sundance Festival, Movies from all over the world and wouldn't got see 2012 on screen but I don't go pissing online on fans of Transformers. Your definition of `artsy and pretentious' is just `things I…

That's why he said "too artsy and pretentious for me" instead of "too artsy and pretentious in absolute terms and those who disagree can suck it". Chill, nobody is insulting your taste in movies.

> Chill, nobody is insulting your taste in movies.

Yes, he is: the insult lies in the use of the `pretentious', 'artsy' and 'pedantic' word and the condescending tone regarding non-Hollywood movie.

What if I told you a lot of people find Transformers: Dark of the Moon as pretentious and vapid as its title is ?

One more thing ™: s/stoke my ego/make my brain sings

Re: Be Suspicious of Online Movie Ratings

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What would be interesting is to follow the evolution of big blockbusters on imdb through time. Perhaps I am confused but I think I spotted a pattern where around their release date they have very good ratings and then they trend toward very different ratings. Which feels like the ratings are manipulated during the marketing period.

Re: Be Suspicious of Online Movie Ratings

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Snowpiercer. I'm sure some people love it, but I could not think of a single redeeming thing after I got done. I honestly preferred "The Room", (though that ones 'quality' was unintentional.)

I think engineering and or technically minded movie goers find Snowpiercer a lot harder to enjoy than maybe a critic who can discount such issues and focus on plot themes and movie making. There is so much that doesn't add up when you try to imagine how the people on the train solved all the problems they would have faced. It can make films harder to enjoy when you can't pretend that technology is just magic. There a…

I was more bothered by the silly melodrama you got at a number of points, personally ("I know that taste best!"). It did have some really great scenes, though. The schoolcar scene was top notch. And it was quite impressive visually.

Re: Be Suspicious of Online Movie Ratings

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post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The site you linked is unreadable because they write everything in all-caps. Unfortunate considering that the titles sound interesting and that there's lively discussion in the comments.

I forgot to mention the part where all Film Crit Hulk reviews are written in the first person as the Incredible Hulk - hence the all-caps. Certainly a valid criticism. Other authors on the site use proper capitalization. I never found it that big a deal, mildly distracting at best, but I can understand where it turns off others. Seems the design decision for gains in immersion(?) caused a larger tradeoff in readabili…

Worked for me:

    article {
        text-transform: lowercase
    }

Re: Be Suspicious of Online Movie Ratings

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's why he said "too artsy and pretentious for me" instead of "too artsy and pretentious in absolute terms and those who disagree can suck it". Chill, nobody is insulting your taste in movies.

> Chill, nobody is insulting your taste in movies. Yes, he is: the insult lies in the use of the `pretentious', 'artsy' and 'pedantic' word and the condescending tone regarding non-Hollywood movie. What if I told you a lot of people find Transformers: Dark of the Moon as pretentious and vapid as its title is ? One more thing ™: s/stoke my ego/make my brain sings

> What if I told you a lot of people find Transformers: Dark of the Moon as pretentious and vapid as its title is ?

Then I guess I'd say "yeah, probably"? I haven't seen any of the Transformers movies past the first one myself, but I hear they're pretty shit.

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