While the little guys aren't making bank anymore, what about the big guys?
It's my impression that the pornhub network is quite healthy, financially.
The porn industry is in a bind
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Re: The porn industry is in a bind
#12The fine article talks about the losers of the trade war. The winners are OK. If you look where the money is, it's with MindGeek (formerly known as Manwin), a company that has through the years bought bought most of the tube/cam sites, owns Brazzers and other content producers.
For sure, tired unattractive content won't make it. But then you have the true artists of fucking, like James Deen, Pierre Woodman, and those guys working at Czech AV. They seem to be doing quite well.
The innovation in porn, from what I've seen (hehe), is on the personal level, when a performer interacts regularly with viewers through social networks. To successfully provide illusion of intimacy or a relationship is the next frontier in porn, in my humble opinion.
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#13I was just about to share this. That's my company (and me in 2 of the pictures). Thanks for sharing it.
Thanks for joining in. How do you feel about the marginalization of porn by the primary platform vendors?
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#14Back in the day, when porn was in the big online bubble state, sites would offer over $.50/click to their site. When I first started (ab)using that system, the sites immediately bumped it to $.25/click and then $.10/click, and now I think its like $.000034/click, or basically nothing. They would also give you additional money for actual sign ups, and had a bonus day on every month where you made a significant amount…
> AllAdvantage was launched on March 31, 1999, by Jim Jorgensen, Johannes Pohle, Carl Anderson, and Oliver Brock.[2] During its nearly 2 years of operation, it raised nearly $200 Million in venture capital and grew to more than 10 million members in its first 18 months of operation.
Holy hell! So that's where those companies had money from. As a kid I always wondered how those bullshit "install our app, get paid for surfing" companies got their money; it turns out they were burning VC funds all along...
Re: The porn industry is in a bind
#15While the little guys aren't making bank anymore, what about the big guys? It's my impression that the pornhub network is quite healthy, financially.
you are talking about the studios not the actors right?
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#16Forget about the porn for a minute gang... this is, to me, the key insight in the story:
VR and its cousin, “augmented reality,” are controlled by the big corporations.
Facebook owns the Oculus Rift. Microsoft built the Hololens.
Google does Google Glass. These will treat porn at least like Android
treats porn—or maybe even like Glass treated porn when O’Connell
unveiled his app. In other words, they won’t allow it through official
channels and maybe not at all.
Remember the early 80's, when anybody could buy a handful of 8086 processors, a Phoenix or Award BIOS, some cases, etc., and start pumping out IBM compatible PCs? That was pretty amazing, and arguably led to amazing things. How about the way you could take your PC and install ANY operating system on it: DOS, Xenix, Solaris x86, Windows, OS/2, BeOS, BSD Unix, various flavors of Linux, etc. Great opportunity for invention and creation there...
and now? When was the last time you installed a new OS on your smartphone? Your game console? Your VR device? Your smart watch? Etc?
Yeah... thought so.
Look, I'm not saying anything terribly new here, and I don't claim to be. Cory Doctorow said it all better, and before:
http://boingboing.net/2012/01/10/lockdown.html
But we need to take this seriously. I don't want to live in a world where Google, Facebook, IBM, HP, Twitter, Microsoft, EMC, Cisco, Snapchat, etc., decide what content I can consume, what programs I can run, etc. And I doubt most of you do either.
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#17Okay, so, silly question time: why can't we just have a Paetron for porn actors and actresses? Cut out all of the middle men, pay them directly?
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#18The fine article talks about the losers of the trade war. The winners are OK. If you look where the money is, it's with MindGeek (formerly known as Manwin), a company that has through the years bought bought most of the tube/cam sites, owns Brazzers and other content producers. For sure, tired unattractive content won't make it. But then you have the true artists of fucking, like James Deen, Pierre Woodman, and those…
> The innovation in porn, from what I've seen (hehe), is on the personal level.
Good point but I think there is room for innovation at the film side. Porn is the most conservative genre: films are cloned with different actors.
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#19Okay, so, silly question time: why can't we just have a Paetron for porn actors and actresses? Cut out all of the middle men, pay them directly?
Something like this?
Re: The porn industry is in a bind
#20Back in the day, when porn was in the big online bubble state, sites would offer over $.50/click to their site. When I first started (ab)using that system, the sites immediately bumped it to $.25/click and then $.10/click, and now I think its like $.000034/click, or basically nothing. They would also give you additional money for actual sign ups, and had a bonus day on every month where you made a significant amount…
Interestingly, India has several AllAdvantage-like mobile apps. Kids install them and do various tasks (mostly watching ads) and take payment in the form of mobile recharges.