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Crushing up pain pills and spitting out lives in West Virginia coal country

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Re: Crushing up pain pills and spitting out lives in West Virginia coal country

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There's also been a lot of problems with heroin abuse in my hometown in rural Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania, a steel town outside of Pittsburgh.

I am not sure what the solution is, but the War on Drugs approach of criminalization needs to be replaced with rehabilitation. I've seen my friends' and high school classmates' lives get ruined by opioids (and these are good people with tremendous potential whose environment failed them), and I don't think throwing them behind bars is a solution.

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There's also been a lot of problems with heroin abuse in my hometown in rural Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania, a steel town outside of Pittsburgh. I am not sure what the solution is, but the War on Drugs approach of criminalization needs to be replaced with rehabilitation. I've seen my friends' and high school classmates' lives get ruined by opioids (and these are good people with tremendous potential whose environ…

The solution is to legalize cannabis. Lot's of potential for pain management, as well as to let people get high on something much safer.

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There's also been a lot of problems with heroin abuse in my hometown in rural Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania, a steel town outside of Pittsburgh. I am not sure what the solution is, but the War on Drugs approach of criminalization needs to be replaced with rehabilitation. I've seen my friends' and high school classmates' lives get ruined by opioids (and these are good people with tremendous potential whose environ…

I'm not sure you can rehabilitate opiate addicts. Very few of them ever stop using for good.

I think the best solution for the addicts would be lifetime prescriptions for buprenorphine (Suboxone). But then how do you prevent others from abusing the now abundant buprenorphine?

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There's also been a lot of problems with heroin abuse in my hometown in rural Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania, a steel town outside of Pittsburgh. I am not sure what the solution is, but the War on Drugs approach of criminalization needs to be replaced with rehabilitation. I've seen my friends' and high school classmates' lives get ruined by opioids (and these are good people with tremendous potential whose environ…

I'm not sure you can rehabilitate opiate addicts. Very few of them ever stop using for good. I think the best solution for the addicts would be lifetime prescriptions for buprenorphine (Suboxone). But then how do you prevent others from abusing the now abundant buprenorphine?

Relapse is common, regardless of the drug.

Opiate addicts can be rehabilitated.

Suboxone is much, much less euphoric than Oxycodone. Suboxone is abused much less.

Re: Crushing up pain pills and spitting out lives in West Virginia coal country

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I've grown increasingly leery of any story that relies on the anecdotes of three or four people/couples. I thought they'd died out in recent years because of how easily journalists could abuse the format.

This story relies on the anecdotes of one couple. Who apparently got convicted of taking down the county's phone lines. If they're real, they're very much an extreme.

Rather than reinforcing the narrative his entire story relies on them and I now distrust everything else he's said.

Re: Crushing up pain pills and spitting out lives in West Virginia coal country

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post #3

There's also been a lot of problems with heroin abuse in my hometown in rural Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania, a steel town outside of Pittsburgh. I am not sure what the solution is, but the War on Drugs approach of criminalization needs to be replaced with rehabilitation. I've seen my friends' and high school classmates' lives get ruined by opioids (and these are good people with tremendous potential whose environ…

The solution is to legalize cannabis. Lot's of potential for pain management, as well as to let people get high on something much safer.

Colorado legalized marijuana for recreational use and stores opened January 1, 2014. They are widespread in the state.

In 2014 and 2015, heroin overdose deaths in Colorado continued to increase over prior years. Among Colorado men, heroin overdose deaths in 2014 increased 31% over 2013. Among women, 16%.

http://gazette.com/overdosing-on-heroin-use-deaths-surge-in-...

Marijuana legalization does not appear to be a panacea to opiod abuse. Recreational marijuana use has a very different origin than prescription painkiller addiction (which often begins with usage to manage real pain, but spins into an addiction that then turns to heroin when the pills become too expensive).

Re: Crushing up pain pills and spitting out lives in West Virginia coal country

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post #3

There's also been a lot of problems with heroin abuse in my hometown in rural Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania, a steel town outside of Pittsburgh. I am not sure what the solution is, but the War on Drugs approach of criminalization needs to be replaced with rehabilitation. I've seen my friends' and high school classmates' lives get ruined by opioids (and these are good people with tremendous potential whose environ…

The solution is to legalize cannabis. Lot's of potential for pain management, as well as to let people get high on something much safer.

Or... legalize opiates? It's clear that the actual problem in stories like this article is purely caused by legality and the prices it entails. Opiates are really cheap (if you don't by brand-name ones). It'd be no big deal at all for people to use if they didn't pay these ridiculous prices. No stealing. No using dirty needles if they could just get them. And on and on.

Plus people wouldn't be as tempted to switch from properly produced pharma-grade pills to "street heroin", which can vary immensely in quality and purity. They do now because the pricing is out of control, due to the DEA's war on pain patients.

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The solution is to legalize cannabis. Lot's of potential for pain management, as well as to let people get high on something much safer.

Or... legalize opiates? It's clear that the actual problem in stories like this article is purely caused by legality and the prices it entails. Opiates are really cheap (if you don't by brand-name ones). It'd be no big deal at all for people to use if they didn't pay these ridiculous prices. No stealing. No using dirty needles if they could just get them. And on and on. Plus people wouldn't be as tempted to switch fr…

Yes, legalize opiates too (and everything else as well). I'd wager that a majority would be happy with using cannabis for pain management and recreation if it was cheap and available.
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