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Graffiti on ‘Homeland,’ Unnoticed by Producers, Calls Show Racist

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Re: Graffiti on ‘Homeland,’ Unnoticed by Producers, Calls Show Racist

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I haven't seen Homeland past the first season - but can someone who has seen more shed light on the alleged "racism" of the show? Is the show actually racist in its depiction of Arab-speaking characters, or is this simply a manifestation of Hanlon's Razor - "never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"?

Would it matter though? For how long is "ignorance" an excuse for one of the biggest TV shows ever?

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Never knew you could be "racist" against a religion. I get it though, take a powerful word with negative connotations and use it to put your target on the defensive, no matter how tangential the connection. Kind of like being called a "commie" in the 20th century.

I've come through the other side on this topic. When someone levels an "ism" charge, I assume the accuser has an agenda and become suspicious.

Re: Graffiti on ‘Homeland,’ Unnoticed by Producers, Calls Show Racist

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I haven't seen Homeland past the first season - but can someone who has seen more shed light on the alleged "racism" of the show? Is the show actually racist in its depiction of Arab-speaking characters, or is this simply a manifestation of Hanlon's Razor - "never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"?

Homeland is not intentionally racist, but that isn't the main concern. Homeland leans on lazy stereotypes way too much, and that's harmful regardless of intent. This opinion piece from last year has details:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/10/02/...

Re: Graffiti on ‘Homeland,’ Unnoticed by Producers, Calls Show Racist

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Never knew you could be "racist" against a religion. I get it though, take a powerful word with negative connotations and use it to put your target on the defensive, no matter how tangential the connection. Kind of like being called a "commie" in the 20th century.

What if the race is synonymous with a religion- Judaism and Jews being the obvious example?

Except it isn't. There's a clear distinction between Jews as an ethnic group and Judaism the religion. Hence frequent criticism of and among various Jewish movements without it being anti-Semitic.

Re: Graffiti on ‘Homeland,’ Unnoticed by Producers, Calls Show Racist

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Never knew you could be "racist" against a religion. I get it though, take a powerful word with negative connotations and use it to put your target on the defensive, no matter how tangential the connection. Kind of like being called a "commie" in the 20th century.

I think you're trying to make a point out of semantics and not reality here, but i'll take the bait...

here's the first definition google gave me ( http://storage8.static.itmages.com/i/15/1015/h_1444933364_24... )

"a group of people sharing the same culture, history, language, etc.; an ethnic group."

Re: Graffiti on ‘Homeland,’ Unnoticed by Producers, Calls Show Racist

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Never knew you could be "racist" against a religion. I get it though, take a powerful word with negative connotations and use it to put your target on the defensive, no matter how tangential the connection. Kind of like being called a "commie" in the 20th century.

What if the race is synonymous with a religion- Judaism and Jews being the obvious example?

People of many different ethnicities are Jewish.

Re: Graffiti on ‘Homeland,’ Unnoticed by Producers, Calls Show Racist

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Never knew you could be "racist" against a religion. I get it though, take a powerful word with negative connotations and use it to put your target on the defensive, no matter how tangential the connection. Kind of like being called a "commie" in the 20th century.

Racism is just shorthand for prejudices such as ethnocentrism, Orientalism, Othering.

I have never, never seen anti-Christianity been referred to as "racism" by anyone, not even evangelicals and fundamentalists. It would make large swaths of criticism of Christianity (not to mention many extreme metal bands) post-facto racist.

"Othering" is far more general than racism, and relates to identity as a whole, not a specific racial identity.

Re: Graffiti on ‘Homeland,’ Unnoticed by Producers, Calls Show Racist

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Never knew you could be "racist" against a religion. I get it though, take a powerful word with negative connotations and use it to put your target on the defensive, no matter how tangential the connection. Kind of like being called a "commie" in the 20th century.

A more intelligent approach is to evaluate whether claims about racism hold water instead of issuing a blanket dismissal.

During the McCarthy era individuals got persecuted by the state for their beliefs. That's not at all comparable to people voicing an opinion that you may not agree with.

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