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The Drone Papers

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There are a few interesting anecdotes about this huge story -

This is the same leak that Glenn Greenwald describes to Edward Snowden in Moscow (-> -> -> -> POTUS), meaning this story has been in the making for at least 1.5 years.

Second, this quality and quantity of leaks is incredible and can only be attributed to a news organization that takes security as a paramount consideration, setting up proper secure channels to enable technically apt whistle-blowers to approach them with confidence.

Props to The Intercept for some fine journalist work.

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post #2

There are a few interesting anecdotes about this huge story - This is the same leak that Glenn Greenwald describes to Edward Snowden in Moscow (-> -> -> -> POTUS), meaning this story has been in the making for at least 1.5 years. Second, this quality and quantity of leaks is incredible and can only be attributed to a news organization that takes security as a paramount consideration, setting up proper secure channels…

>This is the same leak that Glenn Greenwald describes to Edward Snowden in Moscow (-> -> -> -> POTUS

You mean in "Citizen Four", right?

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There are lots of important points in this set of articles, but a few stand point:

- Congress has not defined what "assassination" means; and since they haven't defined it, the Executive Order 12333 is effectively meaningless. https://theintercept.com/drone-papers/the-assassination-comp...

- IMEIs are used to track targets. Can IMEIs be spoofed?

- Military Aged Males are considered enemy combatants. Effectively that means all males ages 18-49 are considered enemy combatants. Since you're guilty by association, your age makes you a target.

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There are a few interesting anecdotes about this huge story - This is the same leak that Glenn Greenwald describes to Edward Snowden in Moscow (-> -> -> -> POTUS), meaning this story has been in the making for at least 1.5 years. Second, this quality and quantity of leaks is incredible and can only be attributed to a news organization that takes security as a paramount consideration, setting up proper secure channels…

Oh, so that's what that scene was about! I re-watched it now and it really is incredible. Screenshots of some of Greenwald's notes (they don't say much):

1- http://i.imgur.com/Xk3tefg.jpg

2- http://i.imgur.com/3C7sdIA.jpg

3- http://i.imgur.com/8FNhVfE.jpg

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There are lots of important points in this set of articles, but a few stand point: - Congress has not defined what "assassination" means; and since they haven't defined it, the Executive Order 12333 is effectively meaningless. https://theintercept.com/drone-papers/the-assassination-comp... - IMEIs are used to track targets. Can IMEIs be spoofed? - Military Aged Males are considered enemy combatants. Effectively that…

> Military Aged Males are considered enemy combatants. Effectively that means all males ages 18-49 are considered enemy combatants. Since you're guilty by association, your age makes you a target.

As an American citizen I'm so ashamed that we do this.

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Utterly disgusting, America conducts clear war crimes, tortures, bombs afghan hospitals, assisinates, all without consequence.

I'm sure some idiot will tell me to vote, because that'll change the systemic corruption and nightmare that has taken hold of US power.

Did voting in nazi Germany help? No because they were voted in, voting only legitimizes a political system completely captured by insiders and corporate juggernauts. These people only response to power and will not hesitate to kill you, imprison you, or otherwise destroy your life.

But go on, tell us how voting matters. Lol.

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