How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

Post by pdpi » Thu, Oct 15, 2015, 3:21 PM UTC

ptaipale wrote: post #87

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Working crazy hours across three jobs to make ends meet is definitely a thing, and not at all rare.

However, just based on my prejudices, I'd claim that those that do work crazy hours across three jobs typically do not need to go jogging, they get some exercise when moving from one job to another. They are also not necessarily the poorest in the income poverty sense, although their situation is quite clearly the most unfair.

Post by plonh » Thu, Oct 15, 2015, 3:23 PM UTC

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I don't think it would be. Yes, the basis for the hypothesis is fried chicken -> black people and craft coffee -> white hipsters. But that's actually what happens with gentrification. Diverse neighbourhoods get plowed over with rich white people. Using race in an analysis doesn't make it racist. OP saying they wouldn't want to live in the places with fried chicken, in the context above (KFC->black people) would be. I…

Here's to hoping that you're just trolling. Your reply injects very specific racial and socio-economic biases as if they were already assumed and understood. Which, in this context, is basically racism.

Post by plonh » Thu, Oct 15, 2015, 3:25 PM UTC

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A less suggestive alternative might be to replace fried chicken with Chinese take-out.

Interestingly enough, the most popular item on Chinese take-out menus (General Tso's Chicken) is fried chicken with sugary glaze. If you combine the most popular American Chinese dishes which are fried chicken (Sesame Chicken, Sweet and Sour Chicken, Orange Chicken) into one group then you could consider American Chinese food basically just fried chicken shops. [1] http://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/data-revea…

Post by scarecrowbob » Thu, Oct 15, 2015, 3:27 PM UTC

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It's anecdotal, but enough reliable anecdotes do actually turn into "data". My personal marker has always been, when visiting a city for the first time, to pay attention to the roadside advertisements I see on the ride from the airport to the city center. Aside from obvious things like payday/title loan shops, the most reliable indicator I've seen of a neighborhood being badly off is ads for cheap dentures and dental…

For me, check cashing shops are a huge sign I'm in a poor neighborhood. Businesses with signs in Spanish is another, though that's probably specific to Texas and the southwest, since we have a lot of poor Hispanic neighborhoods here. Unfortunately, the Hispanic neighborhoods here are almost universally poor. You go farther north, there probably won't be many Hispanic neighborhoods at all. Put them together, and seein…

Post by thedaemon » Thu, Oct 15, 2015, 3:28 PM UTC

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Now that's an interesting indicator - many of these are variations of the same theme and lagging indicators. Yours is (except for areas in immediate transitions) a real time indicator idea. At least in the US.

It would definitely work in the UK as well - especially as you can tell the age of a car from the number-plate. Find a run down area and track the number of newer family cars or BMWs/Audis.