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How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

gk1 wrote: post #65
DannoHung wrote: post #31

This analysis would be tremendously racist in America.

A less suggestive alternative might be to replace fried chicken with Chinese take-out.

Interestingly enough, the most popular item on Chinese take-out menus (General Tso's Chicken) is fried chicken with sugary glaze. If you combine the most popular American Chinese dishes which are fried chicken (Sesame Chicken, Sweet and Sour Chicken, Orange Chicken) into one group then you could consider American Chinese food basically just fried chicken shops.

[1]http://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/data-reveals-most-...

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Post by GBond »

dbattaglia wrote: post #39

Would be interesting to see this done for Brooklyn, which has a lot of "up-and-coming" areas and a plethora of fried chicken and coffee shops.

Problem with Brooklyn is that high-end hipster friend chicken sandwiches is the latest trendy food.

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Post by ptaipale »

pnut wrote: post #120
ptaipale wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

However, just based on my prejudices, I'd claim that those that do work crazy hours across three jobs typically do not need to go jogging, they get some exercise when moving from one job to another. They are also not necessarily the poorest in the income poverty sense, although their situation is quite clearly the most unfair.

I've got an uncle who works construction. He's adamant that his free time not be spent doing physical activity.

That may be reasonable -- though the amount of physical activity in construction jobs also seems to vary a lot; many operators of heavy equipment such as bulldozers or cranes are actually fairly obese. Not to mention the culture of smoking (at least where I live; the difference to general population is noticeable).

I do office work but commute by bike; I'm also not enthusiastic about jogging on top of that.

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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Post by myth_buster »

smikhanov wrote: post #41

A more interesting indicator that authors may consider is how many people living in the area do jogging. When I moved to London's SE4 postcode three years ago (it's pretty close to Peckham, FWIW), the regeneration of the area has just started and the more middle-class looking people appeared around, the more men and women in running gear were visible in the streets in the morning. Poor on average take worse care of t…

  Poor on average take worse care of their health and fitness
I think it can be primarily attributed to the low income jobs being more physically and emotionally draining which result in them being sapped by the time they reach home.

This can also be witnessed in the amount of nurture they can provide to their offspring. An interesting argument in one of the Quora thread about being rich was that financial freedom let's them have the flexibility to spend more time with their kids.

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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Post by ngoel36 »

myth_buster wrote: post #125
DannoHung wrote: post #31

This analysis would be tremendously racist in America.

Here [0] is an analysis from America. [0] http://i.imgur.com/OGDWGbN.png

Walmarts can be 3-10x the size of Whole Foods - that's not quite fair...

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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Post by unethical_ban »

DannoHung wrote: post #31

This analysis would be tremendously racist in America.

This analysis would be perceived by hyper-sensitive Liberals as racist, even if it had validity to its claim.

And in the next breath they would lament the lack of "real conversations" we're having in the country.

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Post by amyjess »

ubernostrum wrote: post #20
Xophmeister wrote: post #3

There's no justification for the assumption of a high coffee-to-chicken ratio implying up-and-coming. It's not an unreasonable assumption, but it's definitely anecdotal.

It's anecdotal, but enough reliable anecdotes do actually turn into "data". My personal marker has always been, when visiting a city for the first time, to pay attention to the roadside advertisements I see on the ride from the airport to the city center. Aside from obvious things like payday/title loan shops, the most reliable indicator I've seen of a neighborhood being badly off is ads for cheap dentures and dental…

For me, check cashing shops are a huge sign I'm in a poor neighborhood.

Businesses with signs in Spanish is another, though that's probably specific to Texas and the southwest, since we have a lot of poor Hispanic neighborhoods here. Unfortunately, the Hispanic neighborhoods here are almost universally poor. You go farther north, there probably won't be many Hispanic neighborhoods at all.

Put them together, and seeing "Cambiamos Cheques" is a huge red flag.

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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Post by amyjess »

myth_buster wrote: post #125
DannoHung wrote: post #31

This analysis would be tremendously racist in America.

Here [0] is an analysis from America. [0] http://i.imgur.com/OGDWGbN.png

...and then you go to Dallas where you typically have a Walmart in walking distance of a Whole Foods or Central Market.
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