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How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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the theory is worth very little. you could identify two other random density factors (like cigarette butts and chelsea fans) and come up with some heatmap to identify the best value houses. only time-series data could give some indication and then you would still have to test it (and then the market would price in your findings shortly after they are published. this kind of arbitrage rarely lasts long).

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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This analysis would be tremendously racist in America.

I'm not from America - care to explain?

Stereotype of African Americans is that they eat a lot of fried chicken so essentially this report would imply it is African Americans that make for a bad neighborhood.

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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This analysis would be tremendously racist in America.

I'm not from America - care to explain?

I'm not an American, but I believe they are referring to the racist meme that associates fried chicken to Americans of non-white ethnicities.

This differs from the UK where fried chicken is more associated with the lower classes than a particular race.

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not from America - care to explain?

Stereotype of African Americans is that they eat a lot of fried chicken so essentially this report would imply it is African Americans that make for a bad neighborhood.

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Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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There's no justification for the assumption of a high coffee-to-chicken ratio implying up-and-coming. It's not an unreasonable assumption, but it's definitely anecdotal.

It's anecdotal, but enough reliable anecdotes do actually turn into "data". My personal marker has always been, when visiting a city for the first time, to pay attention to the roadside advertisements I see on the ride from the airport to the city center. Aside from obvious things like payday/title loan shops, the most reliable indicator I've seen of a neighborhood being badly off is ads for cheap dentures and dental…

Agreed... and there is certainly no reason to restrict the analysis to just two types of shops.

However, fried chicken and coffee shops make for a really catchy way to introduce the possibilities of geo-analysis. I think maybe the point of the blog was to introduce a type of analysis, rather than to test for up and coming areas?

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You put a fried chicken shop in a place where lots of people go I think the idea of the article is that you put one in a place where lots of the "wrong people" go. E.g. that "up and coming" urban professionals et al, don't go much for "fried chicken" -- as I understand in the US it's associated with rednecks, blacks, and the poor? (as opposed to Starbucks or Whole Foods).

Yes, fried chicken is stereotypically a southern-US (poor part of the country, for a variety of historical reasons) and even more stereotypically African-American (poor segment of the population, similarly due to all sorts of historical issues from slavery to overt discrimination to more recent covert discrimination). Which means that fast-food restaurants specializing in fried chicken are a pretty strong economic ma…

In fact it sounds like a good premise for a Key and Peele sketch.
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