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Study: Sitting is no worse than standing without moving

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Re: Study: Sitting is no worse than standing without moving

#52

My lower back pain from sitting all day won't kill me, but it does significantly lower my quality of life.

I found this exercise on /r/fitness and its been phenomenal for my lower back pain from sitting all day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BOTvaRaDjI

Re: Study: Sitting is no worse than standing without moving

#53

Between that and the VW Diesel scandal this is a tough month for silly environmentalist/health trends. Next thing you know someone will figure out getting a company to collect your banana peels for composting is bad for the earth.

I rigged my standing desk so it behaves differently under testing... no, I'm sorry, I have no idea how this is related to the VW diesel scandal.

Re: Study: Sitting is no worse than standing without moving

#54
Fitness and health studies really bug me. People perceive them as actionable when they absolutely aren't and should not be.

If your goal is general health in life you only need to do three things (well 4)..

1) exercise regularly 2) eat a balanced diet 3) sleep as much as you need. 4) drink water.

Don't get hung up in the details.

Re: Study: Sitting is no worse than standing without moving

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post #54

Fitness and health studies really bug me. People perceive them as actionable when they absolutely aren't and should not be. If your goal is general health in life you only need to do three things (well 4).. 1) exercise regularly 2) eat a balanced diet 3) sleep as much as you need. 4) drink water. Don't get hung up in the details.

#3 is not exactly correct. Young people should sleep 9 hours a day whether or not it feels like you 'need' the sleep. Many people will feel fine after 6-7 hours of sleep in the morning, but studies have shown that even if you feel rested you will not perform as well on cognitive tasks if you do not get 9 hours.

I got hung up on the details.

Re: Study: Sitting is no worse than standing without moving

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post #55
post #54

Fitness and health studies really bug me. People perceive them as actionable when they absolutely aren't and should not be. If your goal is general health in life you only need to do three things (well 4).. 1) exercise regularly 2) eat a balanced diet 3) sleep as much as you need. 4) drink water. Don't get hung up in the details.

#3 is not exactly correct. Young people should sleep 9 hours a day whether or not it feels like you 'need' the sleep. Many people will feel fine after 6-7 hours of sleep in the morning, but studies have shown that even if you feel rested you will not perform as well on cognitive tasks if you do not get 9 hours. I got hung up on the details.

I think your comment is characterizing exactly what I say not to do, even if you might be right.

My comment is about staying healthy over the duration of your life. It's also about doing what you can and not sweating the small stuff. Studying hard and sleeping 6 hours will get you better test results than sleeping 9 hours and not studying. Your comment is splitting hairs about a small increase and missing the point....

Re: Study: Sitting is no worse than standing without moving

#58

What about sitting on the floor, cross legged or legs extended. Would that be better than sitting on the chair. Any study on that matter would be good too.

I suspect it would be better, but I would also like to see a study. I work from home and have been experimenting with fairly non-traditional setups:

- sitting on a small stool with no back support.

- sitting cross legged at a low table

- standing with my keyboard at about elbow height.

All three are surprisingly good. I thought I would miss a chair, but I do not in any way. The stool is the least effort, but requires me to be careful of posture or else I get sore muscles. Standing is quite nice as long as I remember to keep shifting my weight around. Sitting cross legged is still difficult for me (lack of flexibility) for more than a few hours, but probably makes me feel the best when I'm done.

Eventually I want to transition to sitting cross legged for most of the day, but I think it will require a concerted effort at training my body to accept it. I'm a bit worried about blood circulation in the legs, though.

My "office furniture" has come in quite a bit under budget with these schemes, though. I spent the equivalent of $10 on the stool. I use my closet (which has a surprisingly convenient shelf in just the right place) for standing.

Re: Study: Sitting is no worse than standing without moving

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post #16

The work looks useful and valuable to this area of study. But WaPo and other media outlets persist in a ubiquitous and terrible trend in science reporting, especially those associated with lifestyle and healt : "Here is a study which has different findings than the other studies we've been reporting on, all that research is now overturned! Burn your standing desk!" Of course, in a few months, someone will publish ano…

Audiences of those articles (nutrition, "cheap" health advice, garbage fitness, and so on) simply want trivial, feel-good advice; the media just fulfill that wish.

It's the cultural substrate which is misguided - having an interest in feeling good about something, rather than actually accomplishing it - but this is personal choice.

Re: Study: Sitting is no worse than standing without moving

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post #16

The work looks useful and valuable to this area of study. But WaPo and other media outlets persist in a ubiquitous and terrible trend in science reporting, especially those associated with lifestyle and healt : "Here is a study which has different findings than the other studies we've been reporting on, all that research is now overturned! Burn your standing desk!" Of course, in a few months, someone will publish ano…

A lot of science is like that these days. You can find enough evidence for anything because the fact is that you are dealing with people and people are individuals with individual chemistry, at least that's a part of it.
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