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Study: Sitting is no worse than standing without moving

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Re: Study: Sitting is no worse than standing without moving

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has been standing for 4 months. About a month ago noticed that my diaphragm has, for the lack of better word, "got straightened". Sitting, probably very incorrect, for 36 years - since the first grade in school - i always thought that it is just my body construction that i have that difficulty breathing full lungs while swimming or running. Lower back also feels better where it matters. And you can't really move while sitting whereis standing you do move a bit - like walking back and forward while waiting for that beast to rebuild.

Re: Study: Sitting is no worse than standing without moving

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The work looks useful and valuable to this area of study. But WaPo and other media outlets persist in a ubiquitous and terrible trend in science reporting, especially those associated with lifestyle and healt : "Here is a study which has different findings than the other studies we've been reporting on, all that research is now overturned! Burn your standing desk!" Of course, in a few months, someone will publish ano…

Meta-analysis answers all of the questsions, one can't be sure before one is done.

Re: Study: Sitting is no worse than standing without moving

#43
This study says standup desks are no good, you are not likely to be any more active than the people in the study just because you are not sitting.

The authors specifically say this in the press release in case you can't see it from the study

http://www.exeter.ac.uk/news/featurednews/title_476860_en.ht...

Dr Melvyn Hillsdon - "The results cast doubt on the benefits of sit-stand work stations, which employers are increasingly providing to promote healthy working environments."

I too don't like the result but the study is pretty clear.

How this study could contradict a large body of evidence to the contrary I can only see as it being a

1. Badly done study.

2. Blue collar vs White collar

Re: Study: Sitting is no worse than standing without moving

#44
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I argue that standing is better because the bias towards movement is higher. You can (and will) shift your weight around and take more frequent breaks, simply because you don't have to stand up to do so. That might be enough.

I dont think shifting your weight around really counts as movement

I think it counts as "incidental" physical activity which has been studied for its health benefits.

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/05/11/fidgeting-your-way-...

Re: Study: Sitting is no worse than standing without moving

#45
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually you're not sure you could do that. When do people ever stand perfectly still for hours on end? We get the difference between anecdotes and data, but it's also ok to formulate testable hypotheses in here. Anyway this is like saying "Buying a bike won't make you thin". Yes, you have to ride the bike. But the availability of a bike in your house greatly raises the chance that you'll ride on any given day. It's…

but it's also ok to formulate testable hypotheses in here. That's a bit odd... you're basically advocating "[formulating] testable hypotheses" simply to post-justify a choice you've already made. That's basically science backwards... It's also human nature. We all love to rationalize. But we can at least see it for what it is. :) Edit: Incidentally, I have personally witnessed the fact that buying a bike has absolute…

You can't use statistical evidence to invalidate someone's personal experience. It doesn't work that way!

When someone says that a standing desk has helped them, you can't just jump out and say "aha! this study says on average they don't work, therefore that someone is rationalising their purchase".

The best you can say is that it works for some people and not others.

Re: Study: Sitting is no worse than standing without moving

#47
post #3

This is a (somewhat) misleading headline and report. The report refers to a study which says that sitting is no worse than standing without moving the body. However, the report does nothing to contradict past studies which show that sitting is bad for the body (in comparison with standing up and walking every n minutes). A better way of reading the study would be to say that "sitting" and "standing without moving" ar…

Right, I felt like the report just basically said that standing all day was not going to improve your health dramatically. Which I agree with. Standing is a sedentary activity.

But the article made it seem like "your standing desk is a waste of money!" Which I disagree with, mostly based on personal experience. [1]

[1] I started standing about a year or so ago after getting into more athletic endeavors like olympic weightlifting. My flexibility today is far, far better now that I stand... and lift regularly. Sitting = tight hips.

Re: Study: Sitting is no worse than standing without moving

#48
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I argue that standing is better because the bias towards movement is higher. You can (and will) shift your weight around and take more frequent breaks, simply because you don't have to stand up to do so. That might be enough.

You could argue that, but given there's no evidence to support it, it's at best colloquial advice. And to be perfectly blunt, that sounds more like an attempt to go back and justify the choice of a standing desk after the fact, now that the base assumption ("standing is better than sitting") has been invalidated.

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Re: Study: Sitting is no worse than standing without moving

#49
I can only give anecdotal evidence on this. I prefer to walk on my treadmill desk which tends to have less impact on my knees and hips. Standing or sitting without motion will eventually tire me or cause some pain, though I generally find I'm likely to move around more while standing. Sitting for too long just tires me out.

I rotate through all 3 though throughout the day, so if my knees are bothering me or I feel like taking a break, I'll sit down for a bit.

The most important thing once I starting using the treadmill though was investing in decent shoes.

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