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Uber Is Taking Millions of Manhattan Rides Away from Taxis

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Re: Uber Is Taking Millions of Manhattan Rides Away from Taxis

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I would take Uber over rude Manhattan cabbies any day. My personal experience with Manhattan taxi drivers after living in NYC for last two years. 1) They drive as if they are on a rally track. I have had never experienced motion sickness before until I moved to Manhattan. 2) If you ignore the tip or tip them in the range of $1-3 you get snarky remarks from them. 3) If you try to hail a cab and (regrettably) ask the t…

I've taken many NYC taxis and rarely experience problems.

Re: Uber Is Taking Millions of Manhattan Rides Away from Taxis

#142

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Here is the problem 1) Uber comes in pays well - sources on the net for hip drivers - You get awesome English speaking nice drivers 2) Uber starts to drop rates 3) Good Uber drivers quit for lack of pay, existing cabbies start to drive for Uber 4) You end up getting the same cabbies as before Uber, but with surge pricing. It takes a while, but eventually it ends back up in the same exact place as before :( Totally ha…

Here is the solution; 1) Uber comes in pays well - sources on the net for hip drivers - You get awesome English speaking nice drivers 2) Uber starts to drop rates 3) Good Uber drivers quit for lack of pay, existing cabbies start to drive for Uber 4) Alternate company, takes lower margin, pays drivers well and offer better customer experience. 5) Uber hold some inertia in via brand name while the majority of the marke…

> 4) Alternate company, takes lower margin, pays drivers well and offer better customer experience.

It doesn't seem to me that your crucial step will work. Uber is worth >$50bn, but more importantly has a substantial amount of cash on hand. I can't imagine anyone could out last them in a price war.

Re: Uber Is Taking Millions of Manhattan Rides Away from Taxis

#143
It appears that Uber significantly improved the coverage for the more economically and ethnically diverse boroughs of NYC:

(from the article):

 	CHANGE IN APRIL-JUNE PICKUPS, 2014 TO 2015
    BOROUGH 	 	UBER 	        TAXI 	        NET
    Brooklyn 	 	+1,123,969 	+299,388 	+1,423,357
    Queens 	 	+655,525 	+191,974 	+847,499
    Manhattan 	 	+4,045,735 	-3,685,504 	+360,231
    Bronx 	 	+126,283 	-265 	        +126,018
    Staten Island 	+3,920 	        +192 	        +4,112
    Manhattan (core) 	+3,818,179      -3,830,621      -12,442
This lends credence to the accusations that taxi drivers exhibit racial discrimination and underserve economically disadvantaged areas.

Re: Uber Is Taking Millions of Manhattan Rides Away from Taxis

#144

It appears that Uber significantly improved the coverage for the more economically and ethnically diverse boroughs of NYC: (from the article): CHANGE IN APRIL-JUNE PICKUPS, 2014 TO 2015 BOROUGH UBER TAXI NET Brooklyn +1,123,969 +299,388 +1,423,357 Queens +655,525 +191,974 +847,499 Manhattan +4,045,735 -3,685,504 +360,231 Bronx +126,283 -265 +126,018 Staten Island +3,920 +192 +4,112 Manhattan (core) +3,818,179 -3,830,…

As a person who often had to deal with Manhattan cabbies who would lock me out if I dare mention Brooklyn: Good. Fuck those assholes.

Re: Uber Is Taking Millions of Manhattan Rides Away from Taxis

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This is very illegal, and you can report the taxi's that pass you.

Problem solved!

Normally I'd consider your comment unhelpful and downvote it.

But discussions like this are loaded with people who assure us that certain ultra-common behavior "is illegal", as if that somehow settles it, so I'm going to tolerate otherwise content-free reminders that this is not true.

Re: Uber Is Taking Millions of Manhattan Rides Away from Taxis

#146
I take cabs and cars everyday in Manhattan. It is as hard or harder to get a yellow cab than it has been in the 25 years I have lived in the city. My routine goes like this; if I can't get a cab in 10 minutes, I get an Uber. I end up taking Uber a lot more than I would like but that is just how it is. I am not only trying during rush hour and rain storms. Even in "light" volume hours getting a medallion cab is not easy. The providers that have been hurt the most by Uber are the old gypsy cab companies. These were TLC "black cars", usually beat up old town cars that were dispatched by radio. Their system of radios and dispatchers has been decimated by Uber. The drivers of those cars have in large part become Uber drivers.

Re: Uber Is Taking Millions of Manhattan Rides Away from Taxis

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> I think they're rude because they aren't held accountable for their rudeness In chicago you can call 311 but you have to register a case and show up in the court on the hearing date.

Chicago has a rudeness court?

There are a lot of rules of conduct cab drivers are required by law to follow in Chicago. Stuff like, they can't harass you for cash if you want to pay with a credit card.

You can't really complain about general rudeness, but most usually the really rude behavior breaks at least a couple rules.

Re: Uber Is Taking Millions of Manhattan Rides Away from Taxis

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Here is the problem 1) Uber comes in pays well - sources on the net for hip drivers - You get awesome English speaking nice drivers 2) Uber starts to drop rates 3) Good Uber drivers quit for lack of pay, existing cabbies start to drive for Uber 4) You end up getting the same cabbies as before Uber, but with surge pricing. It takes a while, but eventually it ends back up in the same exact place as before :( Totally ha…

The quality of Uber drivers in San Francisco has dropped all the way to the point where I simply will not try to use Uber anywhere near downtown. They will accept the ride and the app will show they are "1 minute" away, however it will often take upwards of 15 minutes for them to reach me because they don't know their way around the city and are confused by all the one-way streets in downtown. I promise I"m not exagg…

Some drivers near me will mark the trip 'complete' before dropping off their current passenger. This way they're already in the queue for the next passenger. Then it may take them 5-15min to finish dropping someone off then getting over to you.

Re: Uber Is Taking Millions of Manhattan Rides Away from Taxis

#149

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Here is the problem 1) Uber comes in pays well - sources on the net for hip drivers - You get awesome English speaking nice drivers 2) Uber starts to drop rates 3) Good Uber drivers quit for lack of pay, existing cabbies start to drive for Uber 4) You end up getting the same cabbies as before Uber, but with surge pricing. It takes a while, but eventually it ends back up in the same exact place as before :( Totally ha…

Re #4: really? How long do drivers with All else equal (and many say all else isn't equal here of course, though that argument cuts both ways), a system with SOME accountability is better than a system with none. [1] http://uber-partners-static.s3.amazonaws.com/chicago_uberx/f...

I find it ridiculous that a 5 star rating is expected for an OK (average) ride. 5-stars should be reserved for exceptional rides.

Re: Uber Is Taking Millions of Manhattan Rides Away from Taxis

#150

What I find interesting is that Uber doesn't seem to be having an effect on private car use. From the article, in the busiest part of New York, "Uber gained 3.10 million pickups, while taxis lost 3.09 million." I read this to say that almost every Uber ride would have been a taxi ride if Uber did not exist. It doesn't seem to be replacing private car use at all. If it were, we'd see Uber rides increasing faster than…

Private car ownership is already superfluous in NYC thanks to the MTA. I'd expect a bigger difference in cities with inadequate public transit infrastructure.
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