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EU data protection law after the Safe Harbour judgment

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Re: EU data protection law after the Safe Harbour judgment

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Interesting tidbit: If you try to refer to this article with a link on Facebook, they will block you from posting it.

Very intresting. This is what I've got when trying to post it on facebook:

You can't post this because it has a blocked link The content you're trying to share includes a link that our security systems detected to be unsafe:

http://eulawanalysis.blogspot.com/2015/10/the-partys-over-eu...

Please remove this link to continue. If you think you're seeing this by mistake, please let us know.

Re: EU data protection law after the Safe Harbour judgment

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post #11

Interesting tidbit: If you try to refer to this article with a link on Facebook, they will block you from posting it.

Can you screenshot that and show it to us?

Checked it, indeed it is blocked. http://i.imgsafe.org/d64b8e5.png

Re: EU data protection law after the Safe Harbour judgment

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In general, this is a very good thing. The main outcome will be that more engineers will be needed to do more work to ensure that data is handled more carefully. The cost will be slightly reduced profits at companies that handle large volumes of data globally. What's bad about that?

The cost will also be massively reduced profits at companies that handle small volumes of data globally.

Perhaps US politicians should then consider being a Safe Harbour for data themselves. I'm sure that if the US would not have, for example, used their anti-terror apparatus to spy on foreign oil companies [0] and have some more respect for other countries [1] (most NSA criticism focuses on US citizens), things might have been different. I'm very glad the EU is standing up for itself, it should do the same when it comes to TTIP.

[0] http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/09/nsa-spying-braz...

[1]http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/feb/07/eu-us-dip...

Re: EU data protection law after the Safe Harbour judgment

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The cost will also be massively reduced profits at companies that handle small volumes of data globally.

If those companies can't remain profitable without being irresponsible with sensitive private data then maybe they shouldn't exist at all.

This isn't just an impediment to businesses that deal in selling "sensitive private data". It's an impediment to any business that has any data about its customers (e.g. delivery addresses).

Unless I'm misunderstanding it?

Re: EU data protection law after the Safe Harbour judgment

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If those companies can't remain profitable without being irresponsible with sensitive private data then maybe they shouldn't exist at all.

This isn't just an impediment to businesses that deal in selling "sensitive private data". It's an impediment to any business that has any data about its customers (e.g. delivery addresses). Unless I'm misunderstanding it?

Yes, it's personal data, ie., data that identifies or allows for the identification of a person.

Re: EU data protection law after the Safe Harbour judgment

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you screenshot that and show it to us?

Checked it, indeed it is blocked. http://i.imgsafe.org/d64b8e5.png

Same here in France: https://twitter.com/thibaut_barrere/status/65423399540481638...

Re: EU data protection law after the Safe Harbour judgment

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I think there's a bit of a rush to panic about data balkanisation here; remember, this is not a ruling that applies directly to Facebook, but to the information commissioner of Ireland.

There's no new policy and no court orders to do particular things. What's likely to happen is an extensive legal limbo. We may even end up with a special Snowden version of the cookie warning: "Data stored on this system is subject to mass surveillance and may be accessed by the security services without a warrant or due process".

Re: EU data protection law after the Safe Harbour judgment

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If those companies can't remain profitable without being irresponsible with sensitive private data then maybe they shouldn't exist at all.

This isn't just an impediment to businesses that deal in selling "sensitive private data". It's an impediment to any business that has any data about its customers (e.g. delivery addresses). Unless I'm misunderstanding it?

Yes this type of data is in the EU area considered as belonging to the customer not to business. The US and the various European countries have totally incompatible legal views on data protection so it should hardly be a surprise that eventually the EU is going to say that US companies have to follow the local laws.
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