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Okay, so the reason for the sale according to Pitchfork is to grow. I know that's a popular reason, and often cited around here. But...why? To put a music style analogy out, once a band reaches profitability, it's not customary to go adding 2-3 new members. Side projects, maybe, but it's not like this kind of thing. I just hope the publication continues its high quality.
Okay, so the reason for the sale according to Pitchfork is to grow. I know that's a popular reason, and often cited around here. But...why? To put a music style analogy out, once a band reaches profitability, it's not customary to go adding 2-3 new members. Side projects, maybe, but it's not like this kind of thing. I just hope the publication continues its high quality.
You're talking about a lifestyle company where a small group of people become successful and make a great living doing what they love. Absolute blasphemy around these parts! If you're not growing into a multi-billion dollar corporation then you might as well not exist!
Ah! So that's what it's called. I was wondering if there was more to the world of business than all this "Grow or die!" that I hear, well, everywhere. Though it makes sense, "9th year of enough happy customers to pay the bills, just what we were going for" just doesn't make as good a headline as million dollar deals.
Okay, so the reason for the sale according to Pitchfork is to grow. I know that's a popular reason, and often cited around here. But...why? To put a music style analogy out, once a band reaches profitability, it's not customary to go adding 2-3 new members. Side projects, maybe, but it's not like this kind of thing. I just hope the publication continues its high quality.
once a band reaches profitability, it's not customary to go adding 2-3 new members. Sure it is, if they want to grow. Writers, managers, session musicians, stylists, PR people, I could go on. Just because you don't get on stage doesn't mean you aren't vital to success of a big name band.
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once a band reaches profitability, it's not customary to go adding 2-3 new members. Sure it is, if they want to grow. Writers, managers, session musicians, stylists, PR people, I could go on. Just because you don't get on stage doesn't mean you aren't vital to success of a big name band.
Sigh I've had more than a few arguments about this perspective in the past, and I'll hold steadfast to one simple rule - if you're not on stage, then you're not "in the band." I didn't say "not important," but if your bassist gets sick, your PR person isn't going to get up on stage and fill in. There are ancillary roles that are important, but firing a Tour Manager or Lawyer is not the same as replacing a drummer, it…
firing a Tour Manager or Lawyer is not the same as replacing a drummer, it just isn't.
No, and replacing your CFO is not the same as firing an administrative assistant. But they're both part of the company.
in a rough analogy, just because a waiter brings you food doesn't mean they had a hand in making it in the kitchen.
No but they are crucial to the whole restaurant experience and thus the success of the business. A bad front of house can completely wreck the best of intentions that the kitchen might have, and a great front of house can save the day if the kitchen fumbles the ball.
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Sigh I've had more than a few arguments about this perspective in the past, and I'll hold steadfast to one simple rule - if you're not on stage, then you're not "in the band." I didn't say "not important," but if your bassist gets sick, your PR person isn't going to get up on stage and fill in. There are ancillary roles that are important, but firing a Tour Manager or Lawyer is not the same as replacing a drummer, it…
I guess it all comes down to the question of what any given band is. Is it essentially a performance arts collective just trying to cover its costs or a business just trying to maximize profits. All bands fall somewhere on that spectrum, and the answer to who is part of the band depends on where they fall on that spectrum. firing a Tour Manager or Lawyer is not the same as replacing a drummer, it just isn't. No, and…
"Part of the company" is completely off-track and downright wrong when talking about a Lawyer versus a Drummer. A drummer contributes to the making of what the lawyer defends. This is very clear in the sense of one is a member of the band, and the other is a member of the organization. One contributes on a creative basis, the other does not. Cut-and-dried definitions here.
No front of the house could ever save a restaurant if the kitchen decides to walk out, right? No band, no organization. No pilots, no airline.
It does kind of make me chuckle that the only times I've had this kind of discussion is with a non-musician who wants to equivocate their functional role with what comes out of the guitar amp. Other people might buy it. I sure don't.
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I say this as a fairly regular Pitchfork reader: The experience and emotions tied to listening to Kid A are like witnessing the stillborn birth of a child while simultaneously having the opportunity to see her play in the afterlife on Imax is one of at least the top five worst sentences I've ever read. (IMHO, their earlier reviews generally were of lower quality than their more recent ones, and they've benefited from…
Not that I'm trying to defend the ridiculousness of that sentence, but Brent DiCrescenzo was pretty notorious for being sarcastic and witty. I was always under the impression he was writing that infamous Kid A review intentionally gratuitous
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For those who aren't familiar, Pitchfork is basically _the_ hipster music magazine. Source: I live in Brooklyn. (This post made with tongue firmly in cheek, of course. By virtue of the fact that I know about it, it can't possibly be hipster enough.)
Ehhhh, Pitchfork tends to only hit the mainstream independent labels at this point, local tea shops play albums that they review, for chrissake. Popular among the Mumford & Sons crowd. Source: I live in Portland. (Also tongue in cheek.)
That would be weird, because Pfork hates them.
Does anyone have these concerns about Conde Nast's other holdings, like Reddit? (Is there anyone at Reddit who fears Conde Nast interfering with its independence?)
Conde Nast doesn't own Reddit anymore: http://www.redditblog.com/2013/08/reddit-myth-busters_6.html...