Languages to improve your Python

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Post by sebg » Tue, Oct 13, 2015, 1:07 PM UTC

Languages to improve your Python
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Re: Languages to improve your Python

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Post by pmoriarty » Tue, Oct 13, 2015, 2:08 PM UTC

They missed Scheme, one of the most elegant and powerful languages in existence.

Re: Languages to improve your Python

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Post by agentultra » Tue, Oct 13, 2015, 2:20 PM UTC

pmoriarty wrote: post #2

They missed Scheme, one of the most elegant and powerful languages in existence.

But they did mention Hy, a lisp dialect written in Python. I find this hy-larious.

It certainly is one way to learn Python better as you'll be working, indirectly, in its abstract syntax tree. You can do this in plain Python but the ast module is woefully under-documented and rarely used.

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Post by amyjess » Tue, Oct 13, 2015, 2:29 PM UTC

pmoriarty wrote: post #2

They missed Scheme, one of the most elegant and powerful languages in existence.

Not just Scheme, but given how important metaprogramming is to Python, I was hoping there would be more Lisp dialects in the list.

Re: Languages to improve your Python

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Post by dude17172009 » Tue, Oct 13, 2015, 2:33 PM UTC

pmoriarty wrote: post #2

They missed Scheme, one of the most elegant and powerful languages in existence.

Edit: Missed Octave in the list. Too quick in my reading.

Original:

  Another language they might have missed for use with SciPy/Python Notebook: Matlab/WolframAlpha/Octave.

Re: Languages to improve your Python

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Post by dec0dedab0de » Tue, Oct 13, 2015, 2:35 PM UTC

dude17172009 wrote: post #5

pmoriarty wrote: post #2

They missed Scheme, one of the most elegant and powerful languages in existence.

Edit: Missed Octave in the list. Too quick in my reading. Original: Another language they might have missed for use with SciPy/Python Notebook: Matlab/WolframAlpha/Octave.

Another language they might have missed for use with SciPy/Python Notebook: Matlab/WolframAlpha/Octave.

I think part of the point was to support other Open Source languages.

Re: Languages to improve your Python

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Post by Thrymr » Tue, Oct 13, 2015, 2:37 PM UTC

dude17172009 wrote: post #5

pmoriarty wrote: post #2

They missed Scheme, one of the most elegant and powerful languages in existence.

Edit: Missed Octave in the list. Too quick in my reading. Original: Another language they might have missed for use with SciPy/Python Notebook: Matlab/WolframAlpha/Octave.

They didn't miss it: "Array-oriented data processing: MATLAB/Octave, Julia"

Re: Languages to improve your Python

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Post by dec0dedab0de » Tue, Oct 13, 2015, 2:37 PM UTC

agentultra wrote: post #3

pmoriarty wrote: post #2

They missed Scheme, one of the most elegant and powerful languages in existence.

But they did mention Hy, a lisp dialect written in Python. I find this hy-larious. It certainly is one way to learn Python better as you'll be working, indirectly, in its abstract syntax tree. You can do this in plain Python but the ast module is woefully under-documented and rarely used.

I recently used the ast module to find imports to see which lines in "pip freeze" are actually necessary for any given file/directory. It was pretty neat, and I hope I have a reason to use it again.

Re: Languages to improve your Python

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Post by patrickmay » Tue, Oct 13, 2015, 2:51 PM UTC

SQL is missing from their list. A solid understanding of its capabilities is important. Developers should know when to use it and when not to.

Re: Languages to improve your Python

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Post by ised » Tue, Oct 13, 2015, 2:51 PM UTC

I once read that Python, like Pascal, was intended to be a "teaching language".

Is this true?