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Global coalition tells Facebook to kill its Real Names policy

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Re: Global coalition tells Facebook to kill its Real Names policy

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Facebook was made large by the fact that you can find people you used to know, or haven't spoken to in a while, or aren't that close to. You can find anyone, it's easy. Removing the real names policy does away with that, and I would say seriously threaten's facebook's business/growth/future. If you don't know your old girlfriend or your cousin or your highschool bandmate's username, how are you going to get in touch…

First, the most common use of a "chosen name" policy would be to let you find someone by the name they actually use - stage name, pen name, drag name, or unofficially changed name. Second, the less common but equally important use of a chosen name policy would be to make it hard to find someone who doesn't want to be found eg: by an abusive, dangerous ex.

That can all be dealt with by making your profile private, and not public. Additionally, you simply block the bad/dangerous/stalking party (assuming you are aware of them).

I see countless individuals making their Facebook profiles entirely public, and it's quite frankly scary. At that point they have no control over what the internet sees of them. You can't even change it after the fact, as it's probably been indexed in search engines and cached in internet archives.

Re: Global coalition tells Facebook to kill its Real Names policy

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Facebook was made large by the fact that you can find people you used to know, or haven't spoken to in a while, or aren't that close to. You can find anyone, it's easy. Removing the real names policy does away with that, and I would say seriously threaten's facebook's business/growth/future. If you don't know your old girlfriend or your cousin or your highschool bandmate's username, how are you going to get in touch…

A relative of a friend of mine uses a pseudonym to escape harassment they suffered due to being gay. They're Facebook friend of their parents, their sibs, and other relatives.

How does that work exactly? They were already harassed, so the harassers already knew their real name, I take it? How would abolishing the real-names policy help them in this scenario? Genuinely confused.

Edit. Word missing.

Re: Global coalition tells Facebook to kill its Real Names policy

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Good, I'm glad this is getting traction. Seems like every week I read about another trans person or someone who uses a psuedonym in day-to-day life getting "reported" by some asshole and getting locked out of their Facebook, and Facebook seems uninterested in fixing the issue. Honestly, it's heartbreaking, as someone who uses many Facebook open source projects, to talk to engineers at Facebook and find out how many d…

> It's certainly kept me from responding to FB recruitment emails. Maybe respond with your concerns?

Do you think they haven't heard these concerns?

Re: Global coalition tells Facebook to kill its Real Names policy

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That's stupid. If you use a credible pseudonym, they will never ask you for your ID. If they ask you for your ID, send a fake one. It has worked for me three times. They were laughably bad and they accepted them.

Just the fact that facebook asks an official ID is maddening. They aren't a governmental agency. In Portugal the official ID card has your SS number, fiscal number, and health number. I don't want facebook to know any of those, seriously.

Re: Global coalition tells Facebook to kill its Real Names policy

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Good, I'm glad this is getting traction. Seems like every week I read about another trans person or someone who uses a psuedonym in day-to-day life getting "reported" by some asshole and getting locked out of their Facebook, and Facebook seems uninterested in fixing the issue. Honestly, it's heartbreaking, as someone who uses many Facebook open source projects, to talk to engineers at Facebook and find out how many d…

It doesn't just affect people with pseudonyms, too. If you're from some ethnic background which has unusual names, if you have some uncommon or fake-sounding real name, you might also get tripped up.

Re: Global coalition tells Facebook to kill its Real Names policy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A relative of a friend of mine uses a pseudonym to escape harassment they suffered due to being gay. They're Facebook friend of their parents, their sibs, and other relatives.

How does that work exactly? They were already harassed, so the harassers already knew their real name, I take it? How would abolishing the real-names policy help them in this scenario? Genuinely confused. Edit. Word missing.

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Re: Global coalition tells Facebook to kill its Real Names policy

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That's stupid. If you use a credible pseudonym, they will never ask you for your ID. If they ask you for your ID, send a fake one. It has worked for me three times. They were laughably bad and they accepted them.

> If you use a credible pseudonym, they will never ask you for your ID.

Unless you're trans. Unless that 'pseudonym' is actually your real name because you come from a non-majority ethnic background.

Re: Global coalition tells Facebook to kill its Real Names policy

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post #14
post #10

That's stupid. If you use a credible pseudonym, they will never ask you for your ID. If they ask you for your ID, send a fake one. It has worked for me three times. They were laughably bad and they accepted them.

Just the fact that facebook asks an official ID is maddening. They aren't a governmental agency. In Portugal the official ID card has your SS number, fiscal number, and health number. I don't want facebook to know any of those, seriously.

I agree, but to be picky you can easily cover those up to just display your name.

Re: Global coalition tells Facebook to kill its Real Names policy

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They should just re-introduce the ability that they removed about a year or two ago: ability to remove your name from being searchable on facebook, unless the user knows your actual facebook.com/url.

That's insufficient for all the people that do want to be identifiable by the name they go by amongst people they do want contact with.

Re: Global coalition tells Facebook to kill its Real Names policy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's certainly kept me from responding to FB recruitment emails. Maybe respond with your concerns?

Do you think they haven't heard these concerns?

If they hear them from someone they're actively attempting to recruit, I expect it would carry more weight. At the very least it will make FBs HR department aware of the issue. As the parent commenter said, there are a lot of people at FB who aren't even aware of these issues.
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