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Re: Free resources made by designers at Facebook

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Post by Menge »

err4nt wrote: post #29
Menge wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "Don't look a gift horse in the mouth" The winners apparently write both the history and the idioms. The Trojans would have done well to look a gift horse in the mouth. A wooden horse can be full of physical soldiers and a digital horse with legal ones.

Looking at a real horse's teeth shows how worn down they are over age. Looking at a horses teeth is to check its age. The idiom could be modernized to: 'dont check the odometer of a gift car'

Yes, and the assumption is that a horse is worth between $0 and some number so there is never a reason to refuse a gift horse.

In the case of other "gifts" the value can be negative. The trojan horse, software, and blankets from Lord Jeffery Amherst all need careful examination.

Re: Free resources made by designers at Facebook

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Post by Menge »

delinka wrote: post #30
Menge wrote: post #26

The license on the IOS GUI: http://facebook.github.io/design/license.html You can't use any of this in an actual application. So, I make a mock up and show it to someone and then my finished work has to be different from the mock up to avoid copyright infringement? In that situation, I would say I have intentionally defrauded my customer(/employer) and they should refuse to pay (or fire me) and win. (More likely stil…

Summary: I don't see an actual problem here. "...found in the public release of iOS 9." Facebook can't claim copyright on Apple's UI elements by simply recreating them in a Photoshop mockup. Upon further reading of the license, I see that it says you can't embed the Facebook Design Resources in an app. In other words, you can't redistribute their Photoshop files.

Now I am even more confused. What is Apple's license on Apple's UI elements that facebook can make this derivative work?

From reading the description it sounded like they were making original elements in the style of Apple's for apps with non-native features that need to blend in.

Re: Free resources made by designers at Facebook

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Post by septerr »

Menge wrote: post #26

The license on the IOS GUI: http://facebook.github.io/design/license.html You can't use any of this in an actual application. So, I make a mock up and show it to someone and then my finished work has to be different from the mock up to avoid copyright infringement? In that situation, I would say I have intentionally defrauded my customer(/employer) and they should refuse to pay (or fire me) and win. (More likely stil…

You are getting psds of iphone's own user interface...so that you can then put the mock up of your application inside it for say client presentation or to see how your app's design looks on the iPhone or to see if your app's design meshes well with iphone's aesthetics.

Re: Free resources made by designers at Facebook

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Post by FilterSweep »

septerr wrote: post #33
Menge wrote: post #26

The license on the IOS GUI: http://facebook.github.io/design/license.html You can't use any of this in an actual application. So, I make a mock up and show it to someone and then my finished work has to be different from the mock up to avoid copyright infringement? In that situation, I would say I have intentionally defrauded my customer(/employer) and they should refuse to pay (or fire me) and win. (More likely stil…

You are getting psds of iphone's own user interface...so that you can then put the mock up of your application inside it for say client presentation or to see how your app's design looks on the iPhone or to see if your app's design meshes well with iphone's aesthetics.

I understand how this works in terms of mockups and how useful it can be - where it gets confusing is in tools like Origami which uses Facebook frameworks:

>Origami can now export code for the parts of your prototypes you used to have to tediously spec to engineers. Now with the click of a button, you can deliver your animation specs as code to your engineers that they can copy-and-paste into the project.

> This uses our _free, open source_ animation frameworks to deliver the exact same feel across all platforms. Take a look at some sample code this can generate and learn more about it.

Which runs in direct contrast with the above License:

> The Facebook Design Resources may not be embedded in any software programs or other products without express written permission.

Unless Origami isn't considered a "Facebook Design Resource" (and is a different type of resource, correct me if I'm wrong here), this seems like lawsuit bait.

Re: Free resources made by designers at Facebook

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Post by delinka »

Menge wrote: post #32
delinka wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Summary: I don't see an actual problem here. "...found in the public release of iOS 9." Facebook can't claim copyright on Apple's UI elements by simply recreating them in a Photoshop mockup. Upon further reading of the license, I see that it says you can't embed the Facebook Design Resources in an app. In other words, you can't redistribute their Photoshop files.

Now I am even more confused. What is Apple's license on Apple's UI elements that facebook can make this derivative work? From reading the description it sounded like they were making original elements in the style of Apple's for apps with non-native features that need to blend in.

I'm sure the license that allows me, a 3rd party app developer, to make 'derivative works' (native applications) that use Apple's UI elements, also permits this kind of use. However, I am currently disinclined to read the current developer license agreement to find out if this actually is the case.

Re: Free resources made by designers at Facebook

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Post by tedks »

tedks wrote: post #10
Tinyyy wrote: post #2

What's the economics behind many tech companies sharing their tools?

They get to spend less on training, making employees more commoditized.

I'm curious as to why this is downvoting while the top-voted response has this exact same thing in it. Is HN just allergic to anything that isn't cheerleading the software industry?
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