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Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by kibibu » Fri, Oct 09, 2015, 3:22 AM UTC

girvo wrote: post #893

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Here are some other keys that are a massive waste for 99% of users: * Home * End * Backtick/tilde ` ~ * Backslash/pipe \ | * PrtScn * Break/Pause * Any F key that is not F1 or F5 When's the last time most users typed a backslash? A pipe char? A backtick ?! (If you say "in a command prompt" you are not talking about the mythical 99% of users) Depending on the audience, [delete] is a waste of space too - a lot of peopl…

Sure. A number-pad that nearly no-one uses takes up a lot more space than keys that would leave empty space or necessitate a brand-new keyboard layout if they were removed. Very different.

Removing the function keys wouldn't necessitate a brand-new layout, and I suspect the num keys get used more than function keys.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by ekianjo » Fri, Oct 09, 2015, 3:28 AM UTC

aianus wrote: post #980

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LOL, your comment is quite funny. This may be true for "most hipsters that don't care about photography", but in reality there are still many folks using regular mirrorless camera or even better, full frame DSLR because their price has dropped so much in the past 3 years. And these folks also happen to be the ones looking for premium laptop options in order to get data transferred fast (wifi is too slow for RAWs) and…

Actually, I have a dSLR myself. But I'm a tech nerd and extremely aware that most people are nothing like me. Most people just take selfies on their smartphone cameras, run them through an ig filter, and call it a day.

Again, most people dont have a 1000+ USD laptop. You are not talking about your regular laptop user here - there is definitely more people who have large cameras and not only smartphones among the ones who buy expensive computers.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by aianus » Fri, Oct 09, 2015, 4:30 AM UTC

ekianjo wrote: post #982

aianus wrote: post #980

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Actually, I have a dSLR myself. But I'm a tech nerd and extremely aware that most people are nothing like me. Most people just take selfies on their smartphone cameras, run them through an ig filter, and call it a day.

Again, most people dont have a 1000+ USD laptop. You are not talking about your regular laptop user here - there is definitely more people who have large cameras and not only smartphones among the ones who buy expensive computers.

I mean, I'm obviously biased because of my age, but walk into any college lecture hall and it's all $1000+ MacBooks. Only a small minority of those same students will ever buy a dSLR.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by unabst » Fri, Oct 09, 2015, 7:51 AM UTC

scholia wrote: post #979

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I can state for a fact that the statement was not a fact, and that it was biased regardless of anything I could have said.

In comments https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

> Mac fans would be wetting themselves so hard that a lot of people would drown....

Be civil.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by nogridbag » Fri, Oct 09, 2015, 5:36 PM UTC

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I spent about 1 hour in the Microsoft Store playing with the SP3. I loved toying with it, but I knew that if I wanted to use it for serious software development I would probably dock it with a real keyboard. The Surface Book seems to be the answer. Truly amazing.

I own one and that is definitely my experience. Most tablets are content consumption devices only. The SP3 allowed you to be a "little" productive on the go with a type keyboard, and a "lot" productive in the office with a dock and a real keyboard. If you want to be fully productive on the go, then I'd agree that buying a full laptop (e.g. Thinkpad, MBP) makes a lot of sense, and even then I'd still plug in a real mo…

Now that I've used the SP4 for a good 30 minutes, I've changed my opinion. The new SP4 type cover is vastly improved over the old one. I could use it as my primary input device.

In fact, I think it's actually a problem for MS! :) The reason why the Surface Book was so appealing was partly because the keyboard/trackpad just wasn't that great with the SP3. Now that they've improved the type cover so much, the SB seems less necessary.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by scholia » Fri, Oct 09, 2015, 10:20 PM UTC

unabst wrote: post #984

scholia wrote: post #979

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In comments https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

> Mac fans would be wetting themselves so hard that a lot of people would drown.... Be civil.

It's civil. It's funny. It's true.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by eosrei » Sat, Oct 10, 2015, 6:43 PM UTC

sonnyp wrote: post #974

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I'm running Mint 17.2 which switched to following Ubuntu LTS releases only. So, I haven't tried a newer Ubuntu, but the wifi is terrible in Win8 too. The "Panda Ultra 150Mbps Wireless N USB Adapter" http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00762YNMG was my solution for a massive range/reliability increase. Related: This screen protector makes the glossy display usable outside: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HDTVJKQ I'm…

The Librem 15 has i7 and backlit keyboard. https://www.crowdsupply.com/purism/librem-15

I've seen it, but it only runs 6hrs (vs 10-14hr) on the battery, weighs 2X and costs 2X my current machine. Plus 15" is too large. I'm really happy to see the progress on freedom-respecting hardware, I'm just not willing to make that many sacrifices at this time.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by holografix » Sat, Oct 17, 2015, 12:49 AM UTC

I just pre-ordered the i5/dGPU model in Australia. Ive been a mac user for at least 5 years and my current machine is a 15" Macbook Retina from mid 2012 and its is an EXCELLENT machine and works flawlessly.

What sold me on the SB was the pen, the slight increase in portability and the dedicated gpu. I was given a macbook air for work and I really noticed the weight difference between it and my 15" retina and I started considdering getting the new "Macbook" which is basically an air with retina, but living without a dgpu basically meant no more dota/sc2.

I also considered getting a surface pro 3 mainly because I love the pen, I have watched for years how different companies like 53 and Wacok have come out with over engineered "fingers" for the iPad! People clearly want to be able to draw and write on it, I think apple missed a HUGE opportunity here, specially since all the creative types favour apple.

However I am DREADING being stuck in Windows. The constant updates, the bugs, the lack of dev tools, lack of xcode, antiviruses, bloatware, no proper terminal... Sincerely worried I'll end up hating it.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by holografix » Sun, Oct 18, 2015, 10:21 PM UTC

holografix wrote: post #988

I just pre-ordered the i5/dGPU model in Australia. Ive been a mac user for at least 5 years and my current machine is a 15" Macbook Retina from mid 2012 and its is an EXCELLENT machine and works flawlessly. What sold me on the SB was the pen, the slight increase in portability and the dedicated gpu. I was given a macbook air for work and I really noticed the weight difference between it and my 15" retina and I starte…

On the Aussie Microsoft site there's a phone number you can call to reserve your Surface Book for pickup at the new flagship store about to open in Sydney.

Called them today, got routed to an offshore call centre, which I have no problems with, the lady who spoke to me was VERY polite and all around great at her job, she tells me they don't yet have the number for the flagship store so can't do anything...

WTF?