Author here. Not sure why this is showing up today but happy to answer questions! FWIW, we have data from 2014 across many more issues and the basic story is the same. Haven't finished writing that up.
I think it would be fascinating to look at the dynamic of how young people interact with an increasingly-old government today. Personally I don't know too many people who believe in the system/even care enough to show up to public meetings, write their representatives, or even vote for that matter. Have these dynamics have changed over the years? Is your research group working on anything in this vein?
What Politicians Believe About Their Constituents: Asymmetric Misperceptions [pdf]
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#32This might be an off topic question, but how do the results change (if at all) when accounting for the age of the people involved? That is, how do politicians do at predicting the opinions of people +/- 5 years of their own age (which may be different than the total for the district)? I've always been curious if politicians are just "behind the times" (due to an average age higher than the average age of constituents…
Their age doesn't predict their accuracy. With that said, I like the idea of asking how they think various age groups think. Maybe they think their district is not as young as it is, maybe they think younger voters are more similar to older voters than they are, or maybe both.
I was actually asking about the case where the demographic they're predicting the opinion of is age restricted -- are they good at predicting the views of a particular age range, even if they're not good at predicting the overall opinion?
My question was just about restricting the age to be near theirs.
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#33It's kind of fascinating that the liberal assessments seem to reflect reality much more closely. Why? Conservative politicians don't have a good reason to be wrong. In fact, it's quite the opposite, the better at estimating who your constituents you are, the more likely you are to be reelected. I'd guess probably error bias. As a conservative, if you overestimate the conservatism of your district, you're not likely t…
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
> > I've long maintained congress would be much more representative if eligible citizens were randomly selected for 1 congressional term, like jurors are in juries. > And like jurors in juries, wouldn't we then be governed by people not smart enough to get out of their congressional term? Now, I think that a by-lot Congress is a really bad idea for a variety of reasons, but that's a moderately stupid argument when it…
> that's a moderately stupid argument when it comes to juries (given that it assumes that everyone is actively seeking to avoid jury service, so the only people who actual serve are those who fail) Overall, the problem is that the system bends to accommodate the judges and lawyers, who get paid very well to be there, and abuses the jurors, who do not. Why do I have get up at 6:00 AM just to sit around for three days…
My wife was called for jury duty a couple years back. It was a drunk driving case. During the preceding 12 months, she'd lost family in one accident involving a drunk driver, and a close friend of hers was hit (thankfully, not terribly injured) by a drunk driver in a separate accident. There was no way they were going to let her on that jury - they were dismissing people for far less. And she had to go back three days.
Neither she nor I try to get out of jury duty - we view it as important and want to do our part - but yeah it can get abusive in pretty stupid ways.
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#35The best quote of the paper (pg 23): > Interestingly, the reason we uncover such striking misperceptions does not appear to be that politicians are reluctant to admit a belief that public opinion is not on their side – many do. Rather, it seems that the reality of where the public stands on these issues has such a weak influence on politicians’ perceptions of public opinion that two candidates coming to judgments abo…
I think electing unqualified, easily-persuaded people into office is not a good idea. Jurors are the weakest part of our judicial system -- why do we pay professionals to convince unpaid non-professionals about the law? Wouldn't it be more efficient to just pay professionals to argue about it?
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#36Author here. Not sure why this is showing up today but happy to answer questions! FWIW, we have data from 2014 across many more issues and the basic story is the same. Haven't finished writing that up.
Thanks for the paper, and for answering questions. There are a couple of hypotheses I wonder about: 1) Politicians don't care about constituent's current opinions, but about their future response to actions the politican might undertake. For example, recent articles indicate widespread support in the U.S. for gun control, but a politician might anticipate: If I support a gun control measure then the NRA will run ads…
On (1), the mental model I have is more like an understanding of who the super-intense supporters are. 90% of people might say they support background checks for gun purchases, but it's the 10% who support it who are voting on the basis of that issue, in part due to organizations like the NRA. I think our findings are consistent with that, in the sense that politicians seem to believe they don't need to learn what public opinion is in order to get re-elected; they can focus on other forms of information-gathering.
On (2), I suspect there is something there, but it's hard to make sense of Democrats from that angle, as Democratic primary voters, for example, are more liberal than the average person, yet Democratic politicians don't seem to see their districts as more liberal than they are. My guess is the key group is something more like "the people who choose to write in and go to meetings."
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Amazing paper. Thanks so much for contributing this work. I work in civic tech and am very focused on trying to improve the gov system we have through technology. Are there any representatives you have seen recently that are doing a particularly good job gauging the pulse of their constituents? AND/OR is there an ideal scenario you have imagined that is left out of the paper? As an aside, as someone who has started o…
There's two assumptions many in the civic tech space seem to share that I don't think are so obvious (not that I think they are wrong, just that I think they're not obvious): A1: The world would be better if politicians paid more attention to public opinion or knew more about it. I don't think this is so clear. Citizens support many policies not in their interest, don't know everything that experts do, etc. Most demo…
So even if the populace is apathetic, at least they can't be taken advantaged of.
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#38Looking the three perception statements on page 11, agreement means you agree to some rather radical change. A true conservative would disagree with all three questions due to that. Compared to the true conservative, a conservative right winger would be more likely to agree with the last, and a conservative left winger would be more likely to agree with the first two; however, they might not support any of them because they might be too radical. For example, I know many left wingers that support health care reform but don't support socialized medicine, so they'd likely disagree with "Implement a universal healthcare program to guarantee coverage to all Americans, regardless of income".
That leads to issues with the results. If a conservative left winger says no to the first two, s/he appears more right wing than s/he is.
On the other hand, if they are using conservative correctly, then it appears they are using liberal incorrectly. Liberal isn't the opposite of conservative. Radical is the opposite of conservative. There are radical right wingers that support same sex marriage who come to that idea from libertarianism.
The charts on specific questions are great, because they remove the terminology issue I'm raising, but when they identify the politician as liberal or conservative, it comes right back.
I'm sure the authors know this stuff better than I do, so I suspect I'm misunderstanding their work.
I know one of the authors posted here; I'd appreciate if he'd or someone else could clarify what I've got wrong.
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#39The best quote of the paper (pg 23): > Interestingly, the reason we uncover such striking misperceptions does not appear to be that politicians are reluctant to admit a belief that public opinion is not on their side – many do. Rather, it seems that the reality of where the public stands on these issues has such a weak influence on politicians’ perceptions of public opinion that two candidates coming to judgments abo…
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#40The best quote of the paper (pg 23): > Interestingly, the reason we uncover such striking misperceptions does not appear to be that politicians are reluctant to admit a belief that public opinion is not on their side – many do. Rather, it seems that the reality of where the public stands on these issues has such a weak influence on politicians’ perceptions of public opinion that two candidates coming to judgments abo…
Step 1 - From the district lists randomly select a small number of electors.
Step 2 - Sequester the electors.
Step 3 - The candidates present their proposals, background, arguments, counter arguments.
Step 4 - Electors listen, meditate and cast a secret vote.
Step 5 - Eliminate the candidate with the lowest number of votes.
Step 6 - Repeat from Step 3 until one candidate has more than 51%.
Step 7 - Dismiss the electors.
Some advantages: - No need for expensive campaigns. Takes money out of politics.
- The "Trial" can be televised. People would get involved on what is going on.
- It reduces the need for tactical voting. Electors can vote for their first-choice candidate without fear of wasting their vote.
- Lesser-known candidates would have better odds of winning.