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"For whatever reason" indeed. They must have just flipped a coin on the issue. Really, it's just bad luck at work here. /s
"I'm sure there was no pressure on individual performers to make the results look favorable for VW."
I've always wondered how something like this plays out legally: Can the engineers be somehow held accountable for writing something they were forced / asked to by their managers?
The same principle applies here, in a general sense - but it's sufficiently different in practice, I wonder how it would be treated too.
"This was a couple of software engineers who put this in for whatever reason," - I'm not buying it. What would be their motive compared say to VW's motive? VW has a heck of a lot more motive for falsifying emissions than do "a couple of software engineers." Even if you were to argue the engineers were somehow fearful for their jobs that's still VW's problem because they're the ones who created that work environment i…
They will blame some small man to avoid prosecution of higher staff. I bet this was done off the records - so the Software Engineer manager have no proof this was ordered or suggested by upper management. At worst they will get 1-2 engineers arrested while they will move quietly to other companies that will be willing to use their experience and connections.
The sort of shops where most every discussion is double top-secret: happens in-person, quietly, behind closed doors and the email trail is kept to strictly vague coordination details, at most, since it's subject to discovery. Oh and information is hoarded, because details create weaknesses.
"This was a couple of software engineers who put this in for whatever reason," - I'm not buying it. What would be their motive compared say to VW's motive? VW has a heck of a lot more motive for falsifying emissions than do "a couple of software engineers." Even if you were to argue the engineers were somehow fearful for their jobs that's still VW's problem because they're the ones who created that work environment i…
Ignore whatever comes out of the VW USA guy. The investigations in Germany will most likely be more fruitful especially because police is involved.
"This was a couple of software engineers who put this in for whatever reason," - I'm not buying it. What would be their motive compared say to VW's motive? VW has a heck of a lot more motive for falsifying emissions than do "a couple of software engineers." Even if you were to argue the engineers were somehow fearful for their jobs that's still VW's problem because they're the ones who created that work environment i…
I think it is cowardice to blame them.
"This was a couple of software engineers who put this in for whatever reason," - I'm not buying it. What would be their motive compared say to VW's motive? VW has a heck of a lot more motive for falsifying emissions than do "a couple of software engineers." Even if you were to argue the engineers were somehow fearful for their jobs that's still VW's problem because they're the ones who created that work environment i…
Also, it implies a couple of engineers could slip through arbitrary code to be executed under selective conditions. That's terrifying.
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Also, it implies a couple of engineers could slip through arbitrary code to be executed under selective conditions. That's terrifying.
But also probably true, regardless of this specific situation.