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Seattle, in Midst of Tech Boom, Tries to Keep Its Soul

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Re: Seattle, in Midst of Tech Boom, Tries to Keep Its Soul

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I have lived in Seattle since 2009, first working at Microsoft and now working remotely for a Bay Area company. For people who aren't familiar with the Seattle area, it is cleaved into 2 parts: 1) The city of Seattle or the "west side". This area is increasingly dominated by Amazon, local startups and engineering offices for Bay Area companies like Facebook and Google. 2) The cities to the east of Lake Washington (Re…

Good description but I would categorize it as "Seattle" vs "East Side", when people say "West Side" I tend to think of West Seattle down through Burien.

Re: Seattle, in Midst of Tech Boom, Tries to Keep Its Soul

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While growing up in the Seattle area in the 70's & 80's, I always thought Seattle was the coolest city in the world. It's still fun for me to visit and I do miss the trees, lakes, and Mt. Rainier, but to me it has completely lost its charm. All that was once cool and unique has been monetized and whitewashed.

Out of curiosity, where have you lived after you left Seattle, and how did you like those places? I've been to a few places and liked Seattle a lot :)

Re: Seattle, in Midst of Tech Boom, Tries to Keep Its Soul

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

housing in SF is well over a million now, and if you're hoping to have kids and raise a family Why isn't a nice condo in Mountain View for $700K good enough? 1,300 sq.ft is plenty of space to live. For instance http://www.mlslistings.com/property/ml81517677/1945-mount-ve...

Because you can get a 1300 sq foot condo for 70k (or less!) in most of the country. If you aren't among the elite of financial means (we're talking 1% wealth) SF is a losing proposition.

Whoa wait. The top 1% makes >$400K/yr. You're saying you can't afford a $700K condo on a $150K+/yr programmer salary?

How comes it's always the "other guy" that's the problem?

Re: Seattle, in Midst of Tech Boom, Tries to Keep Its Soul

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I've only lived in Seattle for about 6 years, but have seen / felt a rise in rents over that time. When we moved here, lots of rentals were offering one or two months free rent as a move in special. Now, not so much. Because he was sick of friends moving away, a friend of mine made his rookie run for the city council this past year. He didn't survive the primary, but he had some good ideas about housing that have in…

This is a severely under-appreciated point about housing costs. I live in a college town and rents have been climbing to the degree where the ratio of income to housing expenses is the highest in the nation, leaving New York and San Francisco in the dust. Every once in a while there will be more proposals to build condos over existing houses or apartments. We've been here before: housing stock is considerably increas…

>I live in a college town

Boulder? Because if so, PLEASE vote down the land use issues on the ballot.

http://www.citylab.com/housing/2015/10/they-are-coming-for-o...

Re: Seattle, in Midst of Tech Boom, Tries to Keep Its Soul

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> John Criscitello placed posters in Seattle's Capitol Hill neighborhood proclaiming “Welcome! Rich Kids,” and “Wish you weren’t here.” Its hard not to feel angry at people like this. "Rich Kids" really? These "Kids" spent years developing their engineering skills to get to the point where they are now. Are engineers paid a lot? Of course. But we're certainly not in the same category as those who inherit wealth. Most…

It's also ridiculous that these same people benefit greatly from a growing economy that's directly influenced by (and these days also partially propped up by) the boom in tech while deriding it like it's some kind of negative force. It sounds to me a lot more like envy than any nostalgia for artistry and run-down neighborhoods, as they claim.

This article is about Seattle trying to slow the rising number of families being gentrified out of their homes and long standing communities. The nostalgia of not taking your kids out of their current school? The nostalgia of not having a new crazy commute? There is real pain happening to real people.

Who is getting this great benefit that is so ridiculous?

Re: Seattle, in Midst of Tech Boom, Tries to Keep Its Soul

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Capitol Hill is the most glaring change to me in the past 5 years. One of the neatest and most unique neighborhoods in the city, in a way iconic to how Seattle was seen is now filled with brand new condos and multi-use buildings. For god sakes there have been gay-hate crimes on Broadway. Yes, tons of new development has happened in SLU, but that area wasn't much of an established neighborhood to live in befor…

I still have yet to have anyone explain to my why "grit" is a desirable trait in a neighborhood. I can understand wanting diversity, unique cultures, but that absolutely does not conflict with a general quality of life increase.

I think it's less 'grit', and more getting annoyed that absolutely EVERYTHING is brand new. I like new stuff, but places in Seattle have signs like 'Est. 2010', and that makes them 'old', which would be absurd anywhere on the east coast or in the midwest.

I live next to Cal Anderson, fwiw.

Re: Seattle, in Midst of Tech Boom, Tries to Keep Its Soul

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Took a job in Bellevue in April and moved from Philadelphia to Seattle. So far it's a been an interesting experience. I've encountered many people hostile to software engineers in general. A bunch of people immediately ask if I work for Amazon with a hint of disdain after I state my occupation. So it hasn't felt super welcoming so far. I get it, even in some neighborhoods in Philadelphia the same thing is happening.…

A brief elaboration on "many people hostile to software engineers in general": the major source of this are the employers who have done a deal with the apartment owners to all but exclude anyone who doesn't work in the tech industry. The apartment owner simply doesn't rent to anyone who doesn't work for Amazon, Microsoft etc[1]. This makes people grumpy at the folks who apparently do the deal with the devil for this…

Reading this, the employers have nothing to do with it. The apartment owner/managers are deciding who is a "preferred" tenant on their own and should take the heat rather than some arbitrary employer.

Re: Seattle, in Midst of Tech Boom, Tries to Keep Its Soul

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I've only lived in Seattle for about 6 years, but have seen / felt a rise in rents over that time. When we moved here, lots of rentals were offering one or two months free rent as a move in special. Now, not so much. Because he was sick of friends moving away, a friend of mine made his rookie run for the city council this past year. He didn't survive the primary, but he had some good ideas about housing that have in…

> Here the idea is that Seattle would run its own voucher program to subsidize rents for low-income people.

The problem with subsidy programs like that is that the rents then simply go up by the amount of the subsidy.

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