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Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by dpark »

ckozlowski wrote: post #602
dpark wrote: post #582

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but it does seem to make more sense from a readability perspective Not really, as everything is given an unreadable alias anyway, and many are given multiple aliases: Copy-Item -> copy,cp,cpi. So there are just more names to learn.

You don't have to use the aliases though, and they don't tab complete (only the full name does) Personally, I never use them. I saw them more as a help for people coming over from bash.

You do have to use them unless you work alone. I regularly see PS1 files that use the various aliases, as well as the fully-named commands.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by hkmurakami »

tmd83 wrote: post #462
MatthiasP wrote: post #276

That's what the OEMs get for not being able to put out a laptop that could compete with Apple in all those years, they always managed to introduce some fatal flaw in their premium laptops, from weird keyboard layouts to bad fan management software. Let's hope the Surface Book will be succesful and Apple finally gets serious competition in the premium laptop market.

This! At least from the initial look and spec it looks like they did a lot of the things right and put effort in making this nice. Yes there are things that maybe I can get by without but the basics looks fantastic. You don't chip $50 off a premium laptop and make it crappy. OEM just keeps making too many model at every price point .. at every 20 dollars it feels like. While I hate the almost singular choice for OsX…

This is what I was hopeful for when VAIO was spun off of SONY last year.

When I saw the "machined magnesium body" line in their video [1] I was immediately reminded of the VAIO laptops that had beautiful material way back in the 90's.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVfOe5mFbAE&feature=youtu.be

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by superuser2 »

hkmurakami wrote: post #613
superuser2 wrote: post #545

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I don't think people understand the magnitude of this betrayal. When you buy a tool, it should obey you , and any deviations from that expectation should be disclosed upfront. Imagine if you bought a car that detected when you were driving to a particular business, locked out steering, and instead drove you to a competitor that had "partnered" with the manufacturer. You totally own the car, and no one ever told you i…

Considering we apparently don't "own" our Kindle ebook purchases, I can see a future where our hardware purchases are on indefinite loans to us rather than outright purchases.

From the beginning, though, this was a known tradeoff that one could rationally evaluate when deciding whether or not to buy into that ecosystem.

A more apt analogy might be Amazon silently editing books to include product placement for corporate sponsors.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by superuser2 »

yellowbeard wrote: post #601
superuser2 wrote: post #473

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ThinkPad is pretty embarrassing; you're supporting a company that decided to MITM all its users traffic to inject advertising using factory-installed malware by trusting the same certificate, whose private key can be extracted from any Lenovo product and trivially used to MITM all the others. Lenovo needs to fail hard and fast. I recognize we'll probably never get those responsible into prison, but at least we can ma…

> all its users traffic It was only a subset of their customers, and none of the ThinkPad models. https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/product_security/superfish

Is that supposed to be better? The same people profit from ThinkPad purchases as the other notebooks. In fact withholding it from ThinkPad indicates a deliberate campaign not to put it where a tech-savvy user might see it.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by chm »

aresant wrote: post #366

Wow, this page is a mess - here's an element based breakdown of the switching elements in their presentation: MSFT: - nav 1 - nav 2 - header with what sounds like a call to action, but no button to buy? - hero image with text overlaid that has terrible contrast nobody will read - inter-page menus with some insane zooming function that scared my browser - another hero image - 3 columns - maybe buttons? no not clickabl…

When I view the iPad Pro page on Firefox latest with NoScript blocking Apple.com, it is much more responsive than when JS is on.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by scholia »

tdicola wrote: post #105

Surface Book looks neat but is it an admission that the Surface Pro and its flexible keyboard, kickstand, etc. perhaps aren't the best design?

The Surface Book doesn't replace the Surface Pro 3. The Surface Pro 4 replaces the Surface Pro 3, which has been very successful.

What the Surface Book does is expand the range and compete more strongly with the MacBook/MacBook Pro, rather than the MacBook Air.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by fabean »

aresant wrote: post #366

Wow, this page is a mess - here's an element based breakdown of the switching elements in their presentation: MSFT: - nav 1 - nav 2 - header with what sounds like a call to action, but no button to buy? - hero image with text overlaid that has terrible contrast nobody will read - inter-page menus with some insane zooming function that scared my browser - another hero image - 3 columns - maybe buttons? no not clickabl…

When it's all said and done for me the website is over 6MB, that's not acceptable!

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by chm »

huac wrote: post #454
smackfu wrote: post #434

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Apple isn't exactly who I would point to as a good comparison. They have plenty of overdesigned pages: http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/

Can't use mouse-scroll on this page, only arrow keys.

Disable JS on Apple.com and reload the pages. They should render flawlessly and give you back responsiveness, without the animations.

(I'm talking about their iPad Pro and Mac Pro product pages, not necessarily the whole site.)

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by agumonkey »

20tibbygt06 wrote: post #392
MatthiasP wrote: post #276

That's what the OEMs get for not being able to put out a laptop that could compete with Apple in all those years, they always managed to introduce some fatal flaw in their premium laptops, from weird keyboard layouts to bad fan management software. Let's hope the Surface Book will be succesful and Apple finally gets serious competition in the premium laptop market.

Take a look at "Building Microsoft Surface Pro 3." [1] Microsoft definitely has set the bar for this type of device. I personally have been waiting for such a device that all the other offerings were just not up to par as each seemed to have some quirk or problem. Bad hinge design, drivers not working, performance was subpar, battery life was lacking. Other manufactures will have to take notice. [1] https://channel9.…

Too bad it was mostly slides. Very nice idea to release this anyway. I hope there will be a SP4 follow-up (somehow mentioned on this video)
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