Looks terrible on Chrome https://imgur.com/H75ejZN
Linux/Firefox too. Eventually the pictures load. Wonder how it's looking on edge?
New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft
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#332How much does the book’s base weigh? Why will no one tell me?
Weight:
Surface Book Laptop:
Non-GPU: 3.34 lbs. (1515 g)
GPU: 3.48 lbs. (1579 g)
Tablet only: 1.6 lbs. (726 g)
So the non-GPU base weighs 1515-726 or 789g.
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#333Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly. MBP is so lightweight and robust that you can take it anywhere where you would take a tablet. Since I got my MBP I completely stopped using the Nexus 10 tablet (which I used a lot before that). The battery lasts as long for similar workloads, it's quiet, and having trackpad means that your screen doesn't get greasy. Having keyboard at hand is a plus. I really cannot think of a situation where a developer wou…
Well, it works with the Surface Pen, so for people who prefer pen and paper for note taking/drawing (like me), it would be useful in a meeting. I can't imagine mouse/trackpad are as good as a pen for free-form drawing diagrams, etc.
Now that you bring that up (and it finally loaded the page in my browser) I'm intrigued by the pen. If this could be a good replacement for Wacom tablets (which have double the price) it would be really interesting.
Does anyone have experience with drawing on Surface with a Pen?
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#334Weighing in as an artist who works in Photoshop all day: I just preordered one because they look awesome. This is exactly the sort of machine that people in my profession want.
I've used the Surface Pro 3 exclusively (as in, no desktop) for about a year now. This will be a fantastic replacement.
Props to Microsoft for actually looking out for creatives.
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#335Earlier quoted context omitted.
Microsoft's server software is actually top-notch and has been for years. Server 2003 was rough, but after that MS really started improving the management tools and allowing a lot more command line via powershell, etc. And in corporate America, Microsoft's Server products are near-ubiquitous. Consider that most of the in-house workflow tools at any company are built in Sharepoint -- and Sharepoint is actually a great…
At the risk of sounding overly snarky: Top-notch does not mean putting the Goddamned Metro UI, a thing for users on touch screens , on a Goddamned SERVER OS like they did with 2012. It's insanity. Every time I have to RDP into a 2012 machine, I cringe a bit. Whoever was responsible for that decision should be shot, and the corpse fired. For all Microsoft has been doing to improve their standing lately, they still mak…
Yeah, the UI is shit, though in the next server release they're adding native PowerShell over SSH, so hopefully you should never have to log in to one again.
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#336I'm very curious how well the trackpad on the Surface Book works. I've had MacBooks and the HP Spectre; the Sprectre is awesome but the trackpad...I mean holy shit it's just absolutely awful to the point where I've pretty much stopped using it. So how good is this trackpad and does it work like a MacBook's where two fingers = right click versus this weird obsession PC vendors seem to have about dividing a single trac…
In Windows 10 I think MS ship trackpad drivers now, on the old Surface products at least two finger tap is definitely a right click anyway.
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#337Earlier quoted context omitted.
It works ... after you let it load and everything reflows accordingly. Terrible first experience.
Microsoft is one of the few companies in the world that will have this many people hitting them all at once.
They should be one of the many companies in the world that know how to produce high availability websites.
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#338Could be a MBP replacement for developers. The only thing is those of us running on OS X, how is Windows 10? I love my command line and linux like commands and tools. - Homebrew - Bash scripts - Docker (Windows 10 currently not supported) - Vagrant I just feel the tooling for MS isn't in the direction I am. I still have a Windows 7 desktop and it's just not the same.
Indeed windows for development is not always as streamlined as a unix-based system like OS X. I use a surface pro 3 with windows 8.1 and wrote a python script that opens a cygwin terminal at the top of my screen to provide Guake-like functionality for windows. Most development work I do however is done within a Ubuntu virtual machine, but then again I've usually been doing web development over the past couple years.
If all you want is a dropdown terminal emulator with Cygwin/git-bash or the windows command prompt why not just use https://conemu.github.io/ . You can configure it to behave just like guake/yakuake. No need for Python scripts.
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#339I'm not crazy about paying extra for the tablet capability and hinge as I'll only ever use it in laptop mode, also curious that there's no USB-C port. However, I'm glad Microsoft is showing its OEMs what a proper Windows laptop should be. The OEMs have been shitting the bed on this for years.
Well ignoring the software, it looks like the specs beat similarly priced Windows Laptops and Macs, so you're probably not going to pay extra, if you do (say compared to a solid Dell XPS 13 2015 which has different price ranges) it won't be much. Either way, while I appreciate some people will never use tablet form factors much, I was personally pleasantly surprised by the form factor despite being a guy who always built his own PCs, barely used laptops and didn't care for any mobility in my computer/device usage at home or at the office (even keeping my laptop almost permanently docked), I now take my tablet to the couch quite a lot to read, play some chess, watch some video. I think you'd be surprised to use it as a tablet but that's just a generalisation, perhaps you are an exception.
The lack of USB-C surprised me a bit, too, especially as they said 'we only stopped going thinner because we wanted to fit USB', i.e. they're claiming they could go even thinner without compromising anything except losing USB, which is where USB-C would've done the trick. Anyway I probably would've gone USB myself, too, there's just too much stuff out there for existing laptops using USB. But instead of the charger, why not offer USB-C as a charger, alongside the regular USB ports? The charger could then connect to a new docking station that'd give you both charging as well peripherals like a monitor, mouse and keyboard office setup. That way you could push USB-C forward, create an easy charging and docking setup, maintain the old USB ports this generation (thereby not excluding anyone), while also facilitating those who buy new USB-C peripherals because they actually work on the Surface Book, making a full change to USB-C in the future (Surface Book 2 or 3) easier, which would then allow an even thinner device. I mean I get they built a cool charger and docking solution and it sucks to ditch that but I don't see the advantage over USB-C.
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#340Not different than most current offers on laptops, the keyboard still looks horrible for programming[1]. Fn keys shared with Home/End/PgUp/PgDwn, Up/Down arrows sharing a key. I guess they call it "slick", I call it won't buy. [1] ok, depending on what you are programming, I'm sure there will be people saying they only need the "0" and "1" keys working.
I don't like where they're placed on my keyboard either, so I use AutoHotkey to bind those functions to alt+arrows. Alt+up for page up, alt+down for page down, alt+left for home and alt+right for end. After a couple hours it became muscle memory again.