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Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by pdpi » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 5:45 PM UTC

cdnsteve wrote: post #140

Could be a MBP replacement for developers. The only thing is those of us running on OS X, how is Windows 10? I love my command line and linux like commands and tools. - Homebrew - Bash scripts - Docker (Windows 10 currently not supported) - Vagrant I just feel the tooling for MS isn't in the direction I am. I still have a Windows 7 desktop and it's just not the same.

I occasionally have to work with Windows servers. Most of the rest, for me, is somewhat painful, but Powershell is probably going to make you wish somebody would port it to unix-y OSes. Just a shame that all the convenient line-editing commands don't work.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by bambang150 » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 5:45 PM UTC

Apple - Microsoft seems interesting these days. Old rivals seem back after a whole silence for both of them

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by 0xFFC » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 5:45 PM UTC

exelius wrote: post #301

pcunite wrote: post #249

What Microsoft has done today is prove they're very focused about providing a top of the line personal computing experience. You can argue about server, but when it comes to applications (which are floating windows), Microsoft Windows has proven they can keep that title for their operating system. I'm glad to see them take ownership over the hardware. That has always been the black mark. I build my own PCs and always…

Microsoft's server software is actually top-notch and has been for years. Server 2003 was rough, but after that MS really started improving the management tools and allowing a lot more command line via powershell, etc. And in corporate America, Microsoft's Server products are near-ubiquitous. Consider that most of the in-house workflow tools at any company are built in Sharepoint -- and Sharepoint is actually a great…

I wish I had down voting ability , You would be my best candidate for down voting.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by freehunter » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 5:46 PM UTC

PaulHoule wrote: post #168

When is somebody going to come out with a convertable that doesn't have a trackpad? Does somebody have a patent that makes it illegal to make a PC without a trackpad or something?

I have a touchscreen netbook, and using it without a mouse or trackpad is almost impossible. You lose a lot of fine control with just a finger.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by slantyyz » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 5:46 PM UTC

h43k3r wrote: post #178

The detachable part is very important if you are buying a touch screen laptop. I have a $1800 lenovo x1 carbon which has a awesome touchscreen which I rarely use because it doesn't support tablet/detachable mode.

I find scrolling and cursor placement to be the most useful aspects of a touchscreen in a laptop form factor.

After I got my Surface Pro 1, I found myself constantly touching the screen on all of my other computers (laptops and desktops) to do that.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by freehunter » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 5:47 PM UTC

bitsoda wrote: post #154

I'm not crazy about paying extra for the tablet capability and hinge as I'll only ever use it in laptop mode, also curious that there's no USB-C port. However, I'm glad Microsoft is showing its OEMs what a proper Windows laptop should be. The OEMs have been shitting the bed on this for years.

The problem is, no one has really come up with an answer for the previous Surface machines Microsoft has put out. The Yoga, XPS, and whatever that newer Asus is are nice, but still not a perfect product start to finish. The OEMs still are not getting it.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by gone35 » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 5:47 PM UTC

bndw wrote: post #143

Looks terrible on Chrome https://imgur.com/H75ejZN

Same in Safari on iPad (ironically enough).

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by rickyc091 » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 5:47 PM UTC

SoapSeller wrote: post #281

Also, the (pre)order page is here[0] But without full specs ): [0] http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Microsof...

Not sure how they can claim it's 2x faster than MBP without any specs... not sure what they are comparing it too as well. Their highest end model to Apple's lowest?

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by jhugg » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 5:47 PM UTC

tdicola wrote: post #317

jhugg wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder how hard it would be to just virtualize linux all the time, rather than trying to load linux on new hardware. How much do you lose as the tech to virtualize gets better?

Why pay a license for a host OS if you just want to run Linux?

Drivers. Sadly.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by hackuser » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 5:48 PM UTC

mizzao wrote: post #250

bitsoda wrote: post #154

I'm not crazy about paying extra for the tablet capability and hinge as I'll only ever use it in laptop mode, also curious that there's no USB-C port. However, I'm glad Microsoft is showing its OEMs what a proper Windows laptop should be. The OEMs have been shitting the bed on this for years.

I don't know about that, I think you should give the tablet mode a try before you speculate about what it can and can't do. I use my SP2 a lot with the Pen and OneNote, which provides automatically digitized handwriting that is viewable and searchable from any computer. It's a pretty killer app but I would probably still be using pen and paper notebooks before someone integrated a screen and highly accurate pen in on…

Can OneNote data be exported to some open, editable format? I like the idea of OneNote's functionality, but I worry about having my data trapped in that application.