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Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by exelius »

pcunite wrote: post #249

What Microsoft has done today is prove they're very focused about providing a top of the line personal computing experience. You can argue about server, but when it comes to applications (which are floating windows), Microsoft Windows has proven they can keep that title for their operating system. I'm glad to see them take ownership over the hardware. That has always been the black mark. I build my own PCs and always…

Microsoft's server software is actually top-notch and has been for years. Server 2003 was rough, but after that MS really started improving the management tools and allowing a lot more command line via powershell, etc.

And in corporate America, Microsoft's Server products are near-ubiquitous. Consider that most of the in-house workflow tools at any company are built in Sharepoint -- and Sharepoint is actually a great platform for business apps (and easy to hire developers for). Exchange/Outlook/Lync is a great corporate collaboration suite that mostly "just works". And from what I've seen, Google Apps isn't really a threat for Microsoft -- it's largely just displacing Lotus Notes at the bottom end of the market.

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Post by spdustin »

drglitch wrote: post #161
NDizzle wrote: post #104

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I had a long discussion a few weeks ago with some friends about how in the short term, Apple messed up with iOS/OS X while Microsoft took the hard, long, correct route and made the OS work in both places. This was after the launch of the iPad Pro which is xbox-huge. I was imagining a product which was a MacBook "Base" which you could connect an iPad to as the 'screen' - except you'd have two different OSes that you'd…

Oh how quickly the past is forgotten :) In early 2000s, microsoft, through its partners, tried releasing remote displays powered by windows CE - they were essentially a precursor to the tablet. Several devices were exactly as you describe. http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM.Tech.Q1.07/50755EA6-A75... Im surprised it took over a decade to get a device that doesn't suck in that form factor, but im glad it happened. W…

I still have my beta Viewsonic Mira unit, along with a non-branded one. And an unopened first-gen Zune, hah! Mira worked fairly well, and we used it to control what was at that time a Homeseer-based home automation setup, but battery life was awful (battery tech has come a LONG way since then).

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Post by theyoungestgun »

thezilch wrote: post #288

It's weird this forwarded me to "en-au", when I've always lived in the US. I had opened a separate tab directly to the Surface Book that was on the "en-us" site, and when I saw the device pricing, not knowing I was on AU, I was surprised to see the HUGE difference in price for the Surface Book from what I'd saw on the other page/tab -- 2.3K vs 1.5K. Hopefully that's rare for them, or there are going to be a lot of pe…

The Aussie dollar is pretty weak right now. That translates to $1640 USD.

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Post by dugmartin »

WorldWideWayne wrote: post #214
cdnsteve wrote: post #140

Could be a MBP replacement for developers. The only thing is those of us running on OS X, how is Windows 10? I love my command line and linux like commands and tools. - Homebrew - Bash scripts - Docker (Windows 10 currently not supported) - Vagrant I just feel the tooling for MS isn't in the direction I am. I still have a Windows 7 desktop and it's just not the same.

I'm running Windows 10 with multiple Linux server distros in the background. Hyper-V shuts them down and brings them up with Windows. WinSCP is my file manager and Putty is my terminal. I prefer this over OS X on Apple hardware because I can get the exact Unix experience that I want without having to fight with Apple about who is in control of the machine. Perhaps more importantly, I get the desktop experience that I…

If you haven't tried it out I'd suggest checking out SuperPutty (https://github.com/jimradford/superputty) - it allows for multiple Putty windows in a tabbed interface.

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Post by WorldWideWayne »

melling wrote: post #272
WorldWideWayne wrote: post #232

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Oh no, "melling" thinks my response was pointless and irrelevant - what to do? Does anyone else find it hilarious that this is coming from a guy who cares about USB-C which is largely pointless and irrelevant in this thread? You got all the responses and downvotes that you deserve.

It is irrelevant this year. Next year it'll ship on tens of millions of PC's. It's certainly not a deal breaker but it would have been a nice to have this year on a small form factor device. It also doubles the throughput of the older standard. It's a $1500 device so people who buy it will probably be using it in 4-5 years. I'd rather spend $20 on an adapter cable now and be able to support the better standard next y…

So you'll get it next year then. I don't get why you have to be a prick about it though by saying that Apple or Google are somehow "more progressive" and then turn around and call someone else's response irrelevant and pointless when you just admitted that your entire concern is basically irrelevant right now.

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Post by slantyyz »

k__ wrote: post #270
slantyyz wrote: post #185

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>> Could be a MBP replacement for developers. The only thing is those of us running on OS X, how is Windows 10? >> I love my command line and linux like commands and tools. - Homebrew - Bash scripts - Docker (Windows 10 currently not supported) - Vagrant I switched from OSX to Windows last year. I thought I'd miss stuff, but you don't. There are package managers like chocolatey to replace homebrew. I use Cmder as my…

I found compiling on Windows always a bit of a PITA. On Linux I just install build-essentials and everything works fine. On Windows I had to install a specific version of VS and fiddle around with the path to get things running. But maybe there is something like the build-essentials package in chocolatey? The terminal command history also feels strange. But I like cls more than clear, haha :D

> I found compiling on Windows always a bit of a PITA.

Yes, that is a legitimate source of pain, but thankfully that's usually a once-and-you're-done problem (for me at least).

When I switched to Windows as my full-time platform, I found Scott Hanselman's Developer's Tool list immensely helpful with my transition.

http://www.hanselman.com/blog/ScottHanselmans2014UltimateDev...

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Post by bduerst »

sorenjan wrote: post #244
gdulli wrote: post #222

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I use Windows as a desktop but have it host a VirtualBox Linux VM for my real work because I don't find either Windows or OSX acceptable for serious Linux development. OSX is actually more insidious because it sort of looks like Linux and makes you think it just about can be Linux, but it's just not. Under VirtualBox my development environment can match my production environment almost completely. There's no awkward…

Using VMWare Workstation fullscreen in Windows 10 is great, since Microsoft finally added virtual desktops. Just put the cursor on the toolbar at the top of the screen (to send keyboard input to the host) and press Ctrl+Win+Left/Right to quickly switch between VMs or host desktop.

What's the i/o latency (clicks, typing, etc.) on linux VMs in W10? Is it a native VM?

Two years ago I was using VMware in W7, but ended up dual booting Linux since the lag was so annoying.

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