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Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by drglitch »

NDizzle wrote: post #104
nullrouted wrote: post #3

I think the Surface Book is finally something that can give the MacBook Pro line a run for its money, this should be interesting.

I had a long discussion a few weeks ago with some friends about how in the short term, Apple messed up with iOS/OS X while Microsoft took the hard, long, correct route and made the OS work in both places. This was after the launch of the iPad Pro which is xbox-huge. I was imagining a product which was a MacBook "Base" which you could connect an iPad to as the 'screen' - except you'd have two different OSes that you'd…

Oh how quickly the past is forgotten :) In early 2000s, microsoft, through its partners, tried releasing remote displays powered by windows CE - they were essentially a precursor to the tablet. Several devices were exactly as you describe.

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM.Tech.Q1.07/50755EA6-A75...

Im surprised it took over a decade to get a device that doesn't suck in that form factor, but im glad it happened.

Will be preordering one tomorrow! edit: this post was written on an MBP :)

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by dragontamer »

cdnsteve wrote: post #140

Could be a MBP replacement for developers. The only thing is those of us running on OS X, how is Windows 10? I love my command line and linux like commands and tools. - Homebrew - Bash scripts - Docker (Windows 10 currently not supported) - Vagrant I just feel the tooling for MS isn't in the direction I am. I still have a Windows 7 desktop and it's just not the same.

http://thenewstack.io/docker-just-changed-windows-server-as-...

Microsoft explicitly has made Windows10 Docker compatible.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by WorldWideWayne »

melling wrote: post #119
strictnein wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, they chose to support 99.9(999?)% of existing USB cables instead.

You can always make that argument. If you want progress, you need to Think Different. Intel and Microsoft have enough muscle to get 100 million PC's shipped in 12 months wth a new standard. Of course, no one said that they only have to ship USB-C.

I guess if you think that walled gardens and locked down platforms are "progress", then you really are thinking differently because you have to basically swallow that pill if you want to enjoy the occasional hardware progress that is seen with fruitier companies.

Of course real progress, to me, means that there is a good standard and everybody uses it. Remember when cell phones all had their own type of charging adapter? I'm so happy now that most manufacturers use micro-usb. Everybody except Apple of course because they're always too busy trying to invent something that will keep you locked in.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by tjohns »

mizzao wrote: post #21
JustSomeNobody wrote: post #2

I wonder if I can get it to run Linux. That would make a pretty nice machine, if so. Edit: I'm not hating on Windows. I just don't prefer it.

I run Linux on a VM inside my Surface Pro 2. Best of both worlds. All the touch and pen gestures are handled by Windows and carry over through VirtualBox. Would love to get a Surface Book as soon as possible.

The big downside to this is poor battery life.

When I tried this on my Surface Pro 3, I found that running Ubuntu inside a VM was really only viable when the device was plugged into wall power.

(Trying to run Ubuntu natively never worked well either, because of missing driver support for things like WiFi/Bluetooth/Keyboard/Stylus, not to mention Linux's poor support for resource scaling on high-DPI displays.)

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by Analemma_ »

cdnsteve wrote: post #140

Could be a MBP replacement for developers. The only thing is those of us running on OS X, how is Windows 10? I love my command line and linux like commands and tools. - Homebrew - Bash scripts - Docker (Windows 10 currently not supported) - Vagrant I just feel the tooling for MS isn't in the direction I am. I still have a Windows 7 desktop and it's just not the same.

They're trying, they're moving in the right direction, but it's still a ways away. Some nice things recently:

- The console host application on Windows 10 finally doesn't suck. Resizeable, copy-paste supported, word wrap text selection, etc.

- It seems like they're trying to make their dev tools use a lot less "black box magic", the kind that that's wonderful when it works right and impossible to debug when it goes wrong. At an ASP.NET workshop recently, Scott Hanselman went to great pains to emphasize that everything he was doing in the VS GUI could also be done from the command line.

- Nuget keeps improving. It's still not a replacement for apt or even Homebrew, but they're listening to feedback and making the changes people request. I feel like in another year or so it could be a real contender.

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