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The Era of Automatic Facial Recognition and Surveillance Is Here

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Re: The Era of Automatic Facial Recognition and Surveillance Is Here

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As someone with prosopagnosia (neurological inability to recognize faces) I find this incredibly frustrating. My everyday life would be immensely easier with assistive tech that told me the names of everyone I see. And now that the technology exists to develop such a useful device, what do we get instead? Mass societal surveillance.

Re: The Era of Automatic Facial Recognition and Surveillance Is Here

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Re: The Era of Automatic Facial Recognition and Surveillance Is Here

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post #21

As someone with prosopagnosia (neurological inability to recognize faces) I find this incredibly frustrating. My everyday life would be immensely easier with assistive tech that told me the names of everyone I see. And now that the technology exists to develop such a useful device, what do we get instead? Mass societal surveillance.

Alas the first application of much cutting-edge technology is in the service of authority. I hope you are at least a bit comforted by the fact that the technology is making its way slowly to you.

Re: The Era of Automatic Facial Recognition and Surveillance Is Here

#24

Walk into a store, and the salesclerks will know your name. - they already do once you scan your store card The store’s cameras and computers will have figured out your identity, - store card and looked you up in both their store database and a commercial marketing database they’ve subscribed to. - store card again. They’ll know your name, - store card salary, - if you entered it and if you didn't lie when you filled…

This is true, but I think it's an important distinction that store cards are typically opt-in (I haven't come across a store that requires such a card to shop there, except maybe Costco). A facial recognition system would, presumably, be automatic.

Re: The Era of Automatic Facial Recognition and Surveillance Is Here

#26
There was a comic recently that had a main character who had little emitters constantly blasting his face with IR radiation, so it would just turn up as an overexposed blob on surveillance cameras. Of course all they need is an IR filter to combat this, but the idea is fun.

Re: The Era of Automatic Facial Recognition and Surveillance Is Here

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Re: The Era of Automatic Facial Recognition and Surveillance Is Here

#28

Walk into a store, and the salesclerks will know your name. - they already do once you scan your store card The store’s cameras and computers will have figured out your identity, - store card and looked you up in both their store database and a commercial marketing database they’ve subscribed to. - store card again. They’ll know your name, - store card salary, - if you entered it and if you didn't lie when you filled…

If for no other reason, video is a much more ubiquitous format. And due to our social norm if an agency was to ask for video record for "some reasons" it would be far easier both technically and politically than asking Walmart to extract all customer data from date X to Y.

Besides, your face is (for all practical purposes) all the data needed to identify exactly who you are, you name is just a few bit (albeit extremely discriminating one) of info and can have collisions.

Being able to efficiently do thing that was possible but inefficient is a huge deal. Especially since the government was designed with inefficiency in mind as a check of power. Removing them means increasing their power, and absolute power corrupt absolutely.

Re: The Era of Automatic Facial Recognition and Surveillance Is Here

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A HN contest: Provide an elevator pitch, to completely non-technical end-users, that will make them aware of this issue and persuade them that it is important to them. Vote up the best ones. [EDIT: The goal is to persuade them about its dangers, not sell them something based on it] That elevator pitch is key. I have extensive knowledge about this issue but have a hard time coming up with it; I need to be prepared. Ch…

HusbandWatcher - provide a photo of your cheating husband, and we will scan hotel, car and street surveillance to show you who he is with every moment he is out of your sight

Employee-motivator - using simple webcams we can monitor the facial emotions of your employees moment to moment. Are they reacting positively to your email about the new executive jet purchase? Are they showing signs of morale fatigue as they fall behind their schedule? We can send them morale boosting emails such as ... "Smile, you still have your job".

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