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Re: One of few places on Earth where an international boundary can be seen at night

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Post by ouiyaaa » Mon, Oct 05, 2015, 3:27 PM UTC

cocoawhale wrote: post #7

1971genocide wrote: post #4

I am usually for open borders but pakistan is really an exception. They have too many problems - They in the past used to openly fund terrorist militias in both India and Nepal. Until they sort themselves out its a good idea to create a donald trump style wall between them and India.

This comment is so discriminatory. India and Pakistan basically have the same problems. Both countries are quite screwy. Read real books on both countries rather than just reading new articles and you would know this.

Really, What about the 1971 genocide?

Re: One of few places on Earth where an international boundary can be seen at night

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Oct 05, 2015, 3:30 PM UTC

thrownaway122 wrote: post #9

grokavi wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And as a South Indian I feel cheated that the money I pay as tax is being wasted this way in what is essentially a North Indian problem.

The propensity to fight pointless wars is a human problem not specific to any particular grouping of humans.

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Re: One of few places on Earth where an international boundary can be seen at night

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Post by ucaetano » Mon, Oct 05, 2015, 3:30 PM UTC

ajeet_dhaliwal wrote: post #10

20kleagues wrote: post #5

As a Pakistani I feel genuinely sad that so much is being spent on enforcing borders when there's so much poverty on either sides of the border in the southern regions.

Poverty won't be solved by spending less on enforcing borders. This is the same type of thing the BBC says whenever India does something like send a probe to the moon or mars.

Actually, it will. Not because of the extra money, but because of increased trade and job mobility that will come with a more open border.

Re: One of few places on Earth where an international boundary can be seen at night

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Oct 05, 2015, 3:30 PM UTC

grokavi wrote: post #6

20kleagues wrote: post #5

As a Pakistani I feel genuinely sad that so much is being spent on enforcing borders when there's so much poverty on either sides of the border in the southern regions.

And as a South Indian I feel cheated that the money I pay as tax is being wasted this way in what is essentially a North Indian problem.

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Re: One of few places on Earth where an international boundary can be seen at night

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Post by grokavi » Mon, Oct 05, 2015, 3:34 PM UTC

thrownaway122 wrote: post #9

grokavi wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And as a South Indian I feel cheated that the money I pay as tax is being wasted this way in what is essentially a North Indian problem.

The propensity to fight pointless wars is a human problem not specific to any particular grouping of humans.

Yes, but I'm not paying for the wars humans are waging all over the globe. I would rather have power in Bangalore than waste it this way.

Re: One of few places on Earth where an international boundary can be seen at night

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Post by mattzito » Mon, Oct 05, 2015, 3:34 PM UTC

Once flying from the US to Delhi, a flight attendant came to get me in the middle of the night, and waved me over to an open window row to show me the border. It's quite pretty, but it is striking how few lights are on other than the border itself.

Re: One of few places on Earth where an international boundary can be seen at night

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Post by sremani » Mon, Oct 05, 2015, 3:58 PM UTC

cocoawhale wrote: post #7

1971genocide wrote: post #4

I am usually for open borders but pakistan is really an exception. They have too many problems - They in the past used to openly fund terrorist militias in both India and Nepal. Until they sort themselves out its a good idea to create a donald trump style wall between them and India.

This comment is so discriminatory. India and Pakistan basically have the same problems. Both countries are quite screwy. Read real books on both countries rather than just reading new articles and you would know this.

Disagree. India and Pakistan are similar and have similar problems but the level of white-washing of history and devotion to "Garrison State" does not happen in India. Heck, the education system in India is wildly varied from state to state. After reading real books and what not, India is screwed up, but if Indians want to feel any better they only have to look at Pakistan and take comfort from the fact Pakistan is more screwed up.

Re: One of few places on Earth where an international boundary can be seen at night

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Post by 1971genocide » Mon, Oct 05, 2015, 4:01 PM UTC

cocoawhale wrote: post #7

1971genocide wrote: post #4

I am usually for open borders but pakistan is really an exception. They have too many problems - They in the past used to openly fund terrorist militias in both India and Nepal. Until they sort themselves out its a good idea to create a donald trump style wall between them and India.

This comment is so discriminatory. India and Pakistan basically have the same problems. Both countries are quite screwy. Read real books on both countries rather than just reading new articles and you would know this.

Nice for you to assume my ignorance.

Pakistan and Saudi Arabia both fund extremist Islamist groups, but no one seems to acknowledge it since both are US allies.

India has its problems but no where the level of Pakistan. The people of Pakistan are extremely brainwashed with religious extremism. I know that because I went to a school filled with them and also Indians. They openly justify terrorism - we are not talking about uneducated people, but extremely educated - cream of the crop pakistanis.

I would love to live to see pakistan became a better country but its people are so backward - its going to take a lot of time to solve all the problems they have.

Re: One of few places on Earth where an international boundary can be seen at night

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Post by ajeet_dhaliwal » Mon, Oct 05, 2015, 4:03 PM UTC

ucaetano wrote: post #13

ajeet_dhaliwal wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Poverty won't be solved by spending less on enforcing borders. This is the same type of thing the BBC says whenever India does something like send a probe to the moon or mars.

Actually, it will. Not because of the extra money, but because of increased trade and job mobility that will come with a more open border.

That is generally true but in this case that isn't really an option.

Re: One of few places on Earth where an international boundary can be seen at night

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Post by JumpCrisscross » Mon, Oct 05, 2015, 4:03 PM UTC

1971genocide wrote: post #18

cocoawhale wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This comment is so discriminatory. India and Pakistan basically have the same problems. Both countries are quite screwy. Read real books on both countries rather than just reading new articles and you would know this.

Nice for you to assume my ignorance. Pakistan and Saudi Arabia both fund extremist Islamist groups, but no one seems to acknowledge it since both are US allies. India has its problems but no where the level of Pakistan. The people of Pakistan are extremely brainwashed with religious extremism. I know that because I went to a school filled with them and also Indians. They openly justify terrorism - we are not talking…

> Pakistan and Saudi Arabia both fund extremist Islamist groups, but no one seems to acknowledge it since both are US allies.

I thought it was a well-travelled non-secret in U.S. diplomatic circles. The Atlantic ran an article [1] a few years ago that caused quite a stir, in part by showing that the U.S. has active invade-and-defuse ("render safe") plans for Pakistan.

[1] http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/print/2011/12/the-ally-f...