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Re: Google Cloud Shell

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Google_products#Discon... Let's not pretend that there was only one "really used" service they pulled. At Google's scale, every service is "really used".

Yeah because iGoogle had a loyal and dedicated following of users that were being underserved by the web desktop market?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6518473

Re: Google Cloud Shell

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Well, that's not typical of most of the world, and that's still a lot more watts than something on standby should be using.

That’s typical for most of the EU. A group of 500 million people. More than the US. Meaning, there are more people unplugging TVs to save money than there people who are able to waste their money on Starbucks coffees. And if more people are unplugging their TVs to save money than there are people wasting money on Starbucks coffees, then maybe, just maybe, saving 1.20$ per month on a VPS is worth it.

I guess wikipedia needs an update because by its numbers the europe average seems to be half that.

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I like this, and it feels "Google-y". Worried that a handful of us will use it, lean on it heavily, and then Google will do what Google does and pull the plug on it.

I am so tired of this meme. Every business shuts down products and services. To re-iterate this meme every time Google announces something is tired. I'm guessing you still hold Google accountable for shutting down Reader - a service you probably never used but go to the well each and every time they announce a service or product.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6518473

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I understand worrying about burn rate and all that, but when the entire service costs the same as a single cup of coffee per month, it might just not matter. How well it works, what features it provides, and how well it interfaces with the rest of the cloud services you're using are much, much more important concerns than saving a buck a month.

Well, not always. As a student, you don’t want to spend 4$ for a cloud console, plus 4$ for cloud IRC, plus 20$ for a VPS, plus 12$ for your phone contract, plus 120$ for a new phone every 2 years... I – like most people – don’t let useless devices run on standby either, costing me upwards of 30$ a year for a TV on standby. As a student, I don’t buy totally overpriced coffee that costs that much either.

You're well past the point of diminishing returns where it makes sense for you to focus your efforts more on increasing income rather than reducing expenditures further. If saving $1 per month is significant to you then it sounds like you've already cut your expenditures to the bone, and there's no more blood to squeeze from that stone. Even working a single hour per week at a part-time job would have better returns than extreme penny-pinching on unplugging appliances and rewriting entire applications to save a few bucks per month. I'm a frugal person, but not illogically so, and I know that income has no ceiling but expenditures definitely have a floor.

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I like this, and it feels "Google-y". Worried that a handful of us will use it, lean on it heavily, and then Google will do what Google does and pull the plug on it.

Note that gcp targets different customers than normal google services. So those decisions probably are well-justified. The story is different in gcp, so common sense would reduce these decisions to the level of any decent cloud provider would do, for example AWS.

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My company is launching a new web design and development service using Google Cloud services. Initially, this was an experiment because we received some Google Cloud hosting credits. We run LAMP (Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP) stacks on virtual machine instances on servers worldwide of our choosing. After Google I/O, some webinars and testing I learned about how quickly new websites and apps could be deployed, Google DNS fo…

disclaimer: I work at GCP That is rad! Anything we can do to help? Link to the company?

I have noticed that all google cloud services now require credit card information for validation. Can this be be made optional and instead rely on their Gmail accounts ? (Especially for people just wanting to tinker with new services for fun)

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My company is launching a new web design and development service using Google Cloud services. Initially, this was an experiment because we received some Google Cloud hosting credits. We run LAMP (Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP) stacks on virtual machine instances on servers worldwide of our choosing. After Google I/O, some webinars and testing I learned about how quickly new websites and apps could be deployed, Google DNS fo…

disclaimer: I work at GCP That is rad! Anything we can do to help? Link to the company?

Spendology is the company >>> spendology.net. Our new service is called Blue Apex Digital. I just used Google DNS and Google Compute Engine to publish >>> blueapexdigital.com. Thanks GCP!

I do have a quick question. I am running a LAMP stack with the A standing for Apache. I put an "Index.html" and an "Index.php" file in my "www" folder. I realize that new files append old files. However, I want to add a ".htaaccess" file with DIRECTORY prioritization for the PHP file over the HTML.

I tried copying an htaaccess file via the gcloud command line tool but I got an error. I've been looking through help, faqs, and searched but haven't seen a solution as of yet. Did I miss something? Thanks!

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I wasn't explicit with my earlier comment, you're right about the beta period. I was referring to after when they exit beta and are a good, useful service for a year or two.

Disclosure: I work for Google. To the best of my recollection, I don't believe we've ever shutdown a product. Was there one in particular that hit you? (Reader, Wave, etc are totally different divisions.)

Oh brother. I guess if you're using the strict definition that a product is only something people pay for, then you may be right, but in the more generally accepted meaning that a Google product is something Google makes that people outside of Google use, you're just flat out wrong.

There's a long, long list of Google products and services that have been discontinued, as somebody else already linked to in this thread: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Google_products#Discon...

Re: Google Cloud Shell

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Nice idea. I do a lot of my development SSHing to a resource rich VPS. For things that take a long time to run (Haskel stack builds, a long running machine learning calculation, etc.) it is great to not run that stuff on a laptop. Cloud Shell is a bit different in the sense you would not want to try anything resource intensive on a micro instance. But for coordinating other services it makes sense. I think Google nee…

So far the biggest advantage of web IDE for me was ability to bypass corporate firewall.

What most web IDEs still get wrong is version control. I want to work on live code and then push it to version control. I do not want another copy of code that I have to push to server and version control.

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