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Re: Google Cloud Shell

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I normally am quite reserved about language use, but comparing google to OVH? Seriously? OVH is a dysfunctional company that somehow turns a profit. We almost lost our company's domain name twice due to their incompetence.

Why is OVH dysfunctional? My dedicated server is running splendid for 2y now.

Their customer service is notoriously... "hit or miss."

Re: Google Cloud Shell

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Wait, so this runs in a browser? Is the idea that you can then use a machine like a Chromebook to handle your development?

It becomes increasingly clear over time why Google is investing so heavily in the "web pages that have the capabilities, performance and experience of a desktop application" branches of modern browser development now.

And the new Nexus Tablet, everyone hoping it will run Android Studio? It's entirely possible next year we'll see JetBrains and Google convert that environment over to web as well. JB's been doing a lot of that work independently, already.

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Coming from an AWS shop, I guess I don't understand the use case(s) for this. What this enable me to do that I couldn't accomplish by ssh'ing to any of the boxes in my environment?

A few guesses: a. It just works. No need to download and configure the right version of the SDK. b. Does not timeout when you close your laptop [I hope!]. c. I works on a Chromebook. Possibly not something you care about, but a historical pain point for the consistency of Google offerings.

For B, unless something is actively running it will presumably just freeze the instance and restart it when you return. GCE is pretty quick to do this and for shells that's not disruptive.

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I like this, and it feels "Google-y". Worried that a handful of us will use it, lean on it heavily, and then Google will do what Google does and pull the plug on it.

Google drops ONE service people really used and now discontinuing anything outdated is "pulling a google." Yeesh!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Google_products#Discon...

Let's not pretend that there was only one "really used" service they pulled. At Google's scale, every service is "really used".

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Google drops ONE service people really used and now discontinuing anything outdated is "pulling a google." Yeesh!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Google_products#Discon... Let's not pretend that there was only one "really used" service they pulled. At Google's scale, every service is "really used".

Yeah because iGoogle had a loyal and dedicated following of users that were being underserved by the web desktop market?

Re: Google Cloud Shell

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So, what if you don't have that button? Is there a minimum amount of product you need to have before this service becomes active?

No button for my domain account as well. Have billing enabled. And when I attempt to send feedback on this issue, I get a "submission failed" error!

Have used micro instances in the past as remote development and deployment environments and a micro instance and it works ok. Wondering if something in between micro (0.7G) and standard (3.5G) might be better considering devenv can get pretty beefed up using certain modern frameworks we won't mention by name ;)

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My company is launching a new web design and development service using Google Cloud services. Initially, this was an experiment because we received some Google Cloud hosting credits. We run LAMP (Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP) stacks on virtual machine instances on servers worldwide of our choosing.

After Google I/O, some webinars and testing I learned about how quickly new websites and apps could be deployed, Google DNS for managing domains, App Engine and other load balancing features that can help manage cost.

The ability to SSH into a virtual machine has proven quite useful to enable my team to coordinate and manage projects. I am still open to using other services like AWS but Google Cloud has been great - especially because they also offer customer service for tech and billing issues.

Re: Google Cloud Shell

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Google Code was first turned into a graveyard, then deprecated, and soon will shut down altogether. Reader was not strictly a development tool (which is what I guess you refer to as "your division"), but was heavily used by developers, so it significantly disrupted people's workflow. Same for Wave and any web API (there's quite a few of them which were unceremoniously dumped).

It is not really Google's fault that Code was not a successful product, other than that they simply didn't have the energy/budget/will to actually make it a competitive product with Github.

Saying Google "doesn't have the budget" to do something is fairly preposterous, tbh. I can understand that they were wrong-footed by the rise of Github; Code was built to compete with Sourceforge, when GH didn't even exist. From day 1 though, it was clear that Code wasn't even "better enough" to actually kill SF for good; further development was incredibly slow. When Github hit their stride, Google reacted by just giving up. They didn't even attempt a comeback.

So yeah, I think it's entirely their fault.

Re: Google Cloud Shell

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I understand worrying about burn rate and all that, but when the entire service costs the same as a single cup of coffee per month, it might just not matter. How well it works, what features it provides, and how well it interfaces with the rest of the cloud services you're using are much, much more important concerns than saving a buck a month.

Well, not always. As a student, you don’t want to spend 4$ for a cloud console, plus 4$ for cloud IRC, plus 20$ for a VPS, plus 12$ for your phone contract, plus 120$ for a new phone every 2 years... I – like most people – don’t let useless devices run on standby either, costing me upwards of 30$ a year for a TV on standby. As a student, I don’t buy totally overpriced coffee that costs that much either.

A sure sign of a weak argument is including the phrase "... like most people ..."

Do you really think most people unplug their televisions after using them?

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