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Re: Google Cloud Shell

#11

Post by rexignis »

Klathmon wrote: post #9
rexignis wrote: post #5

I like this, and it feels "Google-y". Worried that a handful of us will use it, lean on it heavily, and then Google will do what Google does and pull the plug on it.

Well in all honesty if you end up leaning on it heavily in spite of the warning you kind of deserve whatever you get... >This is a Beta release of Cloud Shell. This feature is not covered by any SLA or deprecation policy and may be subject to backward-incompatible changes.

I wasn't explicit with my earlier comment, you're right about the beta period. I was referring to after when they exit beta and are a good, useful service for a year or two.

Re: Google Cloud Shell

#12

Post by markvdb »

kuschku wrote: post #7
CamatHN wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

0.005 p/h ~ $3.60 per month for those who were wondering.

So $1.20 more per month than more powerful VPS from competitors like OVH.

I normally am quite reserved about language use, but comparing google to OVH? Seriously? OVH is a dysfunctional company that somehow turns a profit.

We almost lost our company's domain name twice due to their incompetence.

Re: Google Cloud Shell

#13

Post by CydeWeys »

kuschku wrote: post #7
CamatHN wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

0.005 p/h ~ $3.60 per month for those who were wondering.

So $1.20 more per month than more powerful VPS from competitors like OVH.

I understand worrying about burn rate and all that, but when the entire service costs the same as a single cup of coffee per month, it might just not matter. How well it works, what features it provides, and how well it interfaces with the rest of the cloud services you're using are much, much more important concerns than saving a buck a month.

Re: Google Cloud Shell

#14

Post by limeyy »

markvdb wrote: post #12
kuschku wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So $1.20 more per month than more powerful VPS from competitors like OVH.

I normally am quite reserved about language use, but comparing google to OVH? Seriously? OVH is a dysfunctional company that somehow turns a profit. We almost lost our company's domain name twice due to their incompetence.

Twice? Well....

Re: Google Cloud Shell

#15

Post by TheIronYuppie »

rexignis wrote: post #11
Klathmon wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well in all honesty if you end up leaning on it heavily in spite of the warning you kind of deserve whatever you get... >This is a Beta release of Cloud Shell. This feature is not covered by any SLA or deprecation policy and may be subject to backward-incompatible changes.

I wasn't explicit with my earlier comment, you're right about the beta period. I was referring to after when they exit beta and are a good, useful service for a year or two.

Disclosure: I work for Google.

To the best of my recollection, I don't believe we've ever shutdown a product. Was there one in particular that hit you? (Reader, Wave, etc are totally different divisions.)

Re: Google Cloud Shell

#16

Post by Klathmon »

rexignis wrote: post #11
Klathmon wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well in all honesty if you end up leaning on it heavily in spite of the warning you kind of deserve whatever you get... >This is a Beta release of Cloud Shell. This feature is not covered by any SLA or deprecation policy and may be subject to backward-incompatible changes.

I wasn't explicit with my earlier comment, you're right about the beta period. I was referring to after when they exit beta and are a good, useful service for a year or two.

Which would be understandable if they ever shut down any cloud service offering of this level before (which they have not).

This whole "Google loves to shut stuff down" is really tired and overplayed.

Go ahead and compare Google's track record with Apple's or Microsoft's, or any other company. They are about on par, yet Google almost always gives 6+ months notice (often over a year), provides one-click alternatives, allows you to export your data in one of many formats, and more often than not has an in-house alternative that you can use automatically.

Take a look at the wiki page of google's products [1]. I'd be surprised if you even knew about 10% of those, let alone used more 1 or 2 significantly.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Google_products#Discon...

Re: Google Cloud Shell

#18

Post by nivertech »

stephendicato wrote: post #8

This doesn't actually appear to be new; at least not that I can tell. Google Cloud has supported being able to open an SSH session to any of your instances right from the browser for awhile. I've found it to be a killer feature and am really surprised Amazon Web Services does not offer the same thing.

I also assumed that it's just a webshell to connect to your existing instances.

Only now I realized that it's a 1-click launch of O&M instance with persistent home directory (and in the future maybe persistent image as well).

I hope they will give the ability to switch instance type.

It's a good pattern to have an O&M node, where people are allowed to ssh, which will have all the devops scripts.

You can do this with AWS' t2.micro instance and launch hyperlink and some custom webshell, but it will not be that integrated as Google Cloud Shell.

Re: Google Cloud Shell

#19

Post by SjuulJanssen »

colinbartlett wrote: post #3

Wait, so this runs in a browser? Is the idea that you can then use a machine like a Chromebook to handle your development?

It's still a vm. It uses the browser to "ssh" into the machine. They've got that functionality fol all other vm's as well. Now they offer this "ssh as a service"

Re: Google Cloud Shell

#20

Post by hbogert »

markvdb wrote: post #12
kuschku wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So $1.20 more per month than more powerful VPS from competitors like OVH.

I normally am quite reserved about language use, but comparing google to OVH? Seriously? OVH is a dysfunctional company that somehow turns a profit. We almost lost our company's domain name twice due to their incompetence.

Why is OVH dysfunctional? My dedicated server is running splendid for 2y now.
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