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Re: Ask HN: Looking to purchase a software-defined radio, any advice?

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I bought a "NooElec NESDR Mini 2 USB RTL-SDR & ADS-B Receiver Set" [0] from Amazon a few months ago. It worked without any issues with both Linux and OS X. I've had a ham radio license for a little over 21 years so I've always been interested in radio but the whole SDR thing is new to me. I still really haven't done a whole lot with it but it's fun to play with. The neatest thing I did was set it up on the balcony of…

Also like the NooElec -- the price is right.

But it took me a while to figure out I had to kalibrate it, using the GSM network.

http://www.rtl-sdr.com/how-to-calibrate-rtl-sdr-using-kalibr...

Re: Ask HN: Looking to purchase a software-defined radio, any advice?

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If you went to the CCC camp this summer in Germany you could have gotten a SDR with your badge. The badge [0] (called rad1o) is a hackrf-compatible SDR for frequencys between 50 and 4000 mhz. Maybe somebody at a local hackerspace went and is willing to trade you his? [0]: https://rad1o.badge.events.ccc.de/

+1 for the rad1o/hackrf. Most of the other SDRs people are recommending here are only receivers, so they can't transmit.

When I was at CCC camp I made node.js bindings for the hackrf, so it's pretty easy to work with: https://github.com/mappum/node-hackrf, https://github.com/mappum/hackrf-stream

Re: Ask HN: Looking to purchase a software-defined radio, any advice?

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If you care I live in Berchtesgaden, which provides the unique feature of testing the Galileo System upfront http://www.gate-testbed.com/en/gate-overview.html . Anyway after learning the ESA even has a StartupIncubator here. Because of this,I decided to give it try. My first goal is to build a receiver based on the Raspberry Pi,no idea if i have a chance of doing this, I downloaded the specs and will give it a shoot and see where I get from there.

Re: Ask HN: Looking to purchase a software-defined radio, any advice?

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I got a USB dongle that seems to work under 1GhZ. I was really interested in analyzing zigbee. I think that's in the 2.4GhZ ISM. Any suggestions? I'm also curious ... are these cheap USB dongles just receivers? Or do they have ones that can transmit as well (i.e. transceivers).

You definitely can get SDR transceivers but 1) they are more expensive and not (to my knowledge) 'dongle' sized, and 2) in most jurisdictions there are understandably licensing conditions required in order to be permitted to transmit on the amateur frequencies.

If anyone with experience on SDR transceivers has some input here, that would be great!

Re: Ask HN: Looking to purchase a software-defined radio, any advice?

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So you can start small and grow, or start large and be overwhelmed :-) The "low end" are the various DTV tuner sticks and NooElec is a good source for them. The middle of the road is the HackRF One ($300). The high end would be something from Ettus Research like the USRP.

I have one of the USB DTV receivers and it was fun for exposure but hard to do really interesting stuff with. I got the HackRF One and it has been a lot of fun, I added the Ham-it-Up so that I could easily play around in the HF and AM bands. For my bluetooth work I ended up getting an UberTooth even though the HackRF One should be able to do what I need, the Ubertooth was more compact and simpler to set up and take down.

In my case I'm interested in mesh network wireless systems for robotics and room / house localization for those robots. I also have one of the newer Crazie Fly quad copters and want to get to the point where I can manage it using software.

The important thing is to pick a unit that can operate in the frequencies you are interested in (the HackRF One goes 1Mhz to 6Ghz so its pretty wide open) and be ready to revisit a lot of math you might have considered less than useful back in school (complex numbers).

Really though maximum value per $ is probably though starting with one of the USB DTV receivers. If you find you hate it, or its too steep a learning curve, then you won't be out all that much.

Re: Ask HN: Looking to purchase a software-defined radio, any advice?

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Get an RTL-SDR stick. There is such a community around this hardware that you can be up and running in a few minutes after it arrives.

I purchased a "RTL-SDR Blog R820T2 RTL2832U" a month ago. It has an upgraded oscillator (less setup hassle) and comes with a usable antenna. In the Bay Area I've been able to listen to FM radio, NOAA weather, SJC Airport tower, Police - both NFM and digital, and ADS-B.

I'm quite happy with the purchase, and excited about the possibilities of what I can do next.

Re: Ask HN: Looking to purchase a software-defined radio, any advice?

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A lot of people are recommending Nooelec but I'd recommend starting out with the RTL-SDR blog SDR. It'll have a low PPM receiver and an SMA connector. A lot of the cheaper RTL-SDRs you get (including Nooelec) can have high PPM, non TXCO oscillators. If you're working with weak signals it can kill. There's software to allow you to tune the SDR and eliminate the PPM error but most of the oscillators with high PPM vary by temperature so if you have the SDR in different or changing environments, your calibration can cease being accurate. The SMA connector is a huge help with antennas because the built in MCX connector on many of the SDRs can be pretty fragile (I've broken a couple by accident so far). If you do get a Nooelec anyway, get one of the 0.5PPM models (I think they call them "Mini 2+" with the "+" on the end).

If you like the RTL-SDR after playing with it a while and have a bit of money ($300) I'd strongly recommend the HackRF One. I only started with SDR a few weeks ago and the RTL-SDR was great (especially for the price) but the HackRF One is a whole other level. The amount of bandwidth you can get out of it is amazing.

If you're hoping to handle weather satellites and such, you'll need to build your own antennas. They can be kinda big and you'll need line of sight to the sky most of the time so it'll work best if you have a large open area you can frequently visit. If you own a house your back yard might be good. If you're in an apartment building the roof or parking lot is probably best.

Something else that's fun to play with is ADS-B. It allows you to pick up air traffic position/altitude/speed/heading broadcasts.

Re: Ask HN: Looking to purchase a software-defined radio, any advice?

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rtl-sdr for the win, i can talk about this stuff all day long. now for the software part, with windows systems, options are plenty. linux, hit and miss. gnu-radio is a lofty suite, but here for me, its gqrx. building your own antennas can be quite fun. i typically craft something every month or so, depending on my obsession at any given time, aircraft, satellite, amateur.

i also buy commercial grade hardware., as rtl-sdrs can be a little dodgy due to low tolerace components, so weak signals are hard to digout of a sound floor with cheapo dongles.

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