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Evernote is in deep trouble

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Re: Evernote is in deep trouble

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I tried to use EverNote to study scanned books in TIFF format. It was painful, it wasn't able to import 50,000 pages and apply OCR. I eventually wrote script using Tesseract and a web app similar to Google Books. I could take notes on the sides of the pages and the collect them by tags.

Now I use Skim for Mac to take notes form PDF files.

Re: Evernote is in deep trouble

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post #54

Evernote has me hooked on cross device persistent notes. And I will change to the first quality alternative that lets me import my existing notes from Evernote. Evernote still can't handle even simple non-overlapping changes on two devices. Every time I close my laptop I have to wonder if changes were synched. Especially embarrassing because superb open source code is already available for conflict resolution (git, f…

The thing I've become hooked on and am desperately trying to find a replacement for (just in case) is the functionality that adds a checkbox to a text file which can then be searched for with the todo: search parameter. For example "notebook:Pdcast todo:unfinished" will show me notes with things I still need to do (any unchecked todo checkbox will mean the note appears in that search) I realise there's a billion and…

I'm pretty sure that you could do that with org-mode…

Re: Evernote is in deep trouble

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post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> watch costs like a hawk. Operating in 10 locations sounds like Evernote let their costs get out of control. This one's so important. When you have some millions in the bank from VCs, it's really easy to default to "just spend it" mode. That can vanish so quickly, though... particularly when you're setting up offices with the intent of impressing potential hires and VCs.

I wonder if people absorbing this fact would also start recognizing that basing yourself in SF is a pretty good way to shoot yourself in the foot cost-wise. You could probably open 3 different offices in 3 other metropolitan areas for the same cost as your SF office.

Yup. I used to belong to a non-profit which had its headquarters in Milpitas (just checked, and it still does). Several years ago, they radically changed their fee structure, complaining that costs were too high. Well, sure: if you base yourself in one of the most expensive parts of the country, costs will be far too high!

Also, as a developer, there's no way I'd want to live in the Bay Area. I'm glad that many people enjoy it, but California's not the place for me, not at all.

Re: Evernote is in deep trouble

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post #51

Actual headline: "The inside story of how $1 billion Evernote went from Silicon Valley darling to deep trouble" Current: "Evernote is in deep trouble" (overly strong, imo). Also, I don't think the article supports very well the "deep trouble" description. It sounds like the company has plenty of money and continues to grow.

That doesn't seem like that big of a difference to me. In fact, I'd say the actual headline is more hyperbolic. The inside story of how $1 billion is specifically written to cause people to click the link.

Re: Evernote is in deep trouble

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post #31

A great example of why the "number of users" metric is being overvalued. Until there is a solid, proven and scalable business plan to translate usage to revenue the $100 per user standard valuation shouldn't apply.

Maybe for late stage investors, but if you applied that strategy as an early stage consumer investor you would have missed almost much every big hit (FB, Twitter, Snapchat, Instagram, etc).

Twitter is a dubious hit. It's wildly popular, but its profits are very unimpressive, to say the least.

Re: Evernote is in deep trouble

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post #2

All I need is a good web clipper like evernote's Clearly, so that I can directly save cleaned webpage to a .doc file in a Dropbox folder. Still can't find one. Also, why dropbox does not create a simple note taking app, just save notes to a dropbox folder?

because there are plenty of note taking / writing apps that use dropbox directly?

Re: Evernote is in deep trouble

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post #6

Products like this come and go. I don't know what the value of Evernote is. I've never been a power user. I prefer using Kippt ( sadly, also shut down ) + OS X Notes + Chrome's bookmarks + Google docs + Dropbox. Doesn't feel like a company doing something so specialised can expect a real growth out of a product that isn't remarkably well done.

I hate Evernote for the same reasons as must people (because the software quality is garbage, and they just let it languish for years, as they roll out unwanted features). But, it is not true that there are many other products like Evernote.

There actually aren't any products like Evernote. There may be products like the subset of Evernote that you use and the subset of Evernote that this other person uses, but there is nothing directly competing with it on all (or even most) facets of what it does.

SimpleNote, Google Keep, OneNote, Apple's newly-updated Notes, Paperwork, Yojimbo, etc are often cited as potential replacements, but they all do only a small subset of what Evernote actually does.

A lot of people just need to take notes -- and yep, Evernote is a terrible app for that.

But I don't know any other product that lets you, wherever you are, instantly capture computer-based notes, scanned paper documents, contracts, billing statements, photos of napkins and whiteboards and trade show booths, etc. and makes all that content delegatable/shareable to different co-workers, searchable via OCR in multiple languages, and available in both the cloud and via native app across most platforms.

I am pretty sure there isn't such a product, because Evernote is so bad in terms of software quality that I google for one every month or so, and we are still on Evernote two years later.

Re: Evernote is in deep trouble

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I heard this a lot: Evernote sync-ing is buggy. Could someone point to me how to implement a good cross-device sync-ing algorithms? Or is it perhaps just as simple as using object version based on timestamp?

I've never done this before so I have no clue how easy/hard it is to implement one.

Re: Evernote is in deep trouble

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post #62
post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing I've become hooked on and am desperately trying to find a replacement for (just in case) is the functionality that adds a checkbox to a text file which can then be searched for with the todo: search parameter. For example "notebook:Pdcast todo:unfinished" will show me notes with things I still need to do (any unchecked todo checkbox will mean the note appears in that search) I realise there's a billion and…

I'm pretty sure that you could do that with org-mode…

Interesting and thanks for the heads up but I don't believe I'm quite compatible with that software. I guess I'm also looking for usable-at-3am features, web accessible, phone accessible (currently iOS), centralized or at least synchronised, and the only feature Evernote doesn't seem to provide - backup-able files/database

CLI, Linux.. emacs (!). I'm not sure I could manage to grasp emacs during the middle of a really good day much less a quick note at night

Re: Evernote is in deep trouble

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I heard this a lot: Evernote sync-ing is buggy. Could someone point to me how to implement a good cross-device sync-ing algorithms? Or is it perhaps just as simple as using object version based on timestamp? I've never done this before so I have no clue how easy/hard it is to implement one.

why not libgit2 with a decent diff/merge UI?
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