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Re: Ask HN: Looking to purchase a software-defined radio, any advice?

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Whether you get a USRP or not, the Ettus Research bootable image has GNU Radio already installed and configured, as well as a bunch of other useful radio tools: http://files.ettus.com/liveusb/latest/

They've also got some good tutorials on using GNU Radio Companion.

I'd recommend an RTLSDR, USRP, or HackRF. All good, all different price range, and all have a good community and support around them. If you're interested in a particular band, you may want to get an antenna for that band as well. Ettus Research sells some antennas, or you can buy one from an amateur radio store, or build one for very cheap from the dozens of plans out there by ham radio operators.

Re: Ask HN: Looking to purchase a software-defined radio, any advice?

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I bought a "NooElec NESDR Mini 2 USB RTL-SDR & ADS-B Receiver Set" [0] from Amazon a few months ago. It worked without any issues with both Linux and OS X. I've had a ham radio license for a little over 21 years so I've always been interested in radio but the whole SDR thing is new to me. I still really haven't done a whole lot with it but it's fun to play with. The neatest thing I did was set it up on the balcony of…

Tracking aircraft with a passive radio receiver? You just sold me on SDR.

Re: Ask HN: Looking to purchase a software-defined radio, any advice?

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I got a USB dongle that seems to work under 1GhZ. I was really interested in analyzing zigbee. I think that's in the 2.4GhZ ISM. Any suggestions?

I'm also curious ... are these cheap USB dongles just receivers? Or do they have ones that can transmit as well (i.e. transceivers).

Re: Ask HN: Looking to purchase a software-defined radio, any advice?

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The RTL-SDR is the default starting choice, because it's about $12. If you find you don't like it, hey, you only spent $12.

I've used the FunCube Pro+ dongle for amateur radio stuff. It's very narrow-band (it's based on a sound card as the ADC) but it does cover most of the important amateur radio bands (HF) which most SDRs you find on the Internet do not without additional hardware. It also has special filters around the 2m and 70cm amateur bands, the filters on 2m are especially nice because strong FM radio stations tend to desense the cheap receivers here (RTL-SDR, HackRF IIRC).

At work we use the USRP (B200) for WiFi-related testing, requiring the ability to receive and transmit above 5GHz over 80MHz of bandwidth. The RTL-SDR is not going to do that. (Actually the B200 doesn't quite cover 80MHz, but it's good enough.)

For actual amateur radio work I use an Elecraft KX3 with the 2m module. You can't beat the sensitivity of an entire system engineered to be sensitive. With off-the-shelf SDRs (the KX3 is SDR-based) there are going to be a lot of issues to debug to get the full system performing well. Fortunately, most of the hard parts have to do with transmitting at higher powers, so you might not care if you just want to listen.

A few friends have tried either the BladeRF or HackRF (I don't remember which) and find that it uses an IF near the FM broadcast band, and hence they couldn't get it to work reliably in Manhattan where they live because the IF stages are desensed by the super-strong FM stations nearby. Of course, debugging this is going to require already-working radios and test equipment (oscilloscope/spectrum analyzer). So these cheaper SDRs are not off-the-shelf instantly-working solutions. They're more of another thing that's helpful to have in your lab. You probably don't want to tie up your $10,000 FTDX9000MP to be a WSPR beacon, so you find a good-enough SDR instead and use that.

Finally, the good news is that most of the people writing software for the radio experimentation community know radio and not software, so there is plenty of room for improvement if you care to work on the software.

Re: Ask HN: Looking to purchase a software-defined radio, any advice?

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I bought a "NooElec NESDR Mini 2 USB RTL-SDR & ADS-B Receiver Set" [0] from Amazon a few months ago. It worked without any issues with both Linux and OS X. I've had a ham radio license for a little over 21 years so I've always been interested in radio but the whole SDR thing is new to me. I still really haven't done a whole lot with it but it's fun to play with. The neatest thing I did was set it up on the balcony of…

Another happy NooElec customer here, wholeheartedly recommended.

Re: Ask HN: Looking to purchase a software-defined radio, any advice?

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I bought a "NooElec NESDR Mini 2 USB RTL-SDR & ADS-B Receiver Set" [0] from Amazon a few months ago. It worked without any issues with both Linux and OS X. I've had a ham radio license for a little over 21 years so I've always been interested in radio but the whole SDR thing is new to me. I still really haven't done a whole lot with it but it's fun to play with. The neatest thing I did was set it up on the balcony of…

Tracking aircraft with a passive radio receiver? You just sold me on SDR.

It's ADS-B-[1], which has some limitations (don't imagine you're getting every target, etc), but it is damned cool nonetheless.

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_dependent_surveillan...

Re: Ask HN: Looking to purchase a software-defined radio, any advice?

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I bought a "NooElec NESDR Mini 2 USB RTL-SDR & ADS-B Receiver Set" [0] from Amazon a few months ago. It worked without any issues with both Linux and OS X. I've had a ham radio license for a little over 21 years so I've always been interested in radio but the whole SDR thing is new to me. I still really haven't done a whole lot with it but it's fun to play with. The neatest thing I did was set it up on the balcony of…

+1 for the noelec device.

You can make an external ariel with a bunch of 11cm coax elements coupled together and placed inside a piece of 1/2 plastic pipe.

http://www.balarad.net

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